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Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:02 am
by SC1903A3
Just got this from the TSRA email that DPS will no longer require photos and fingerprints for the renewal process. I'm assuming that DPS will send our existing prints for the FBI background check and in my case my the terrible photo on my current CHL license for my renewal coming this November. Other than the generic pdf flier from DPS does anyone have more info on this as the flier does not go into the minutiae of this change?
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:04 am
by Quahog
Check out this other thread... Charles has posted some really good additional information:
http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33430
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:25 am
by glbedd53
I thought my photo looked awful too but my wife said "no, that's you alright".
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:11 pm
by Fangs
My CHL pic is actually really good. It's my DL that I want changed. Nothing like a wife beater, messy hair, shaggy facial hair, and an oval-shaped sunburn on my face to give an officer confidence that he's dealing with a GG.
I had just completed a 3 day motorcycle safety course, it was 8 am, laundry day, and I (erroneously) believed that they wouldn't need to take a new pic for adding that M to my license)

Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:07 pm
by DoubleActionCHL
This link is talking about changes to the CHL instructor renewals. The information from TSRA
https://www.tsra.com/images/stories/gen ... 072010.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
regards CHL renewals.
"GOOD NEWS FOR LICENSE HOLDERS
RENEWING THEIR CONCEALED
HANDGUN LICENSE
Beginning May 1, 2010, applicants renewing their
Concealed Handgun License will no longer be required
to submit fingerprints or photos, as part of the renewal
process."
I'm looking for some confirmation and details as this affects instructors.
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:26 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
No, the thread is about changes to CHL applications, not instructors.
Chas.
DoubleActionCHL wrote:
This link is talking about changes to the CHL instructor renewals. The information from TSRA
https://www.tsra.com/images/stories/gen ... 072010.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
regards CHL renewals.
"GOOD NEWS FOR LICENSE HOLDERS
RENEWING THEIR CONCEALED
HANDGUN LICENSE
Beginning May 1, 2010, applicants renewing their
Concealed Handgun License will no longer be required
to submit fingerprints or photos, as part of the renewal
process."
I'm looking for some confirmation and details as this affects instructors.
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:41 pm
by DoubleActionCHL
Charles L. Cotton wrote:No, the thread is about changes to CHL applications, not instructors.
Chas.
DoubleActionCHL wrote:
This link is talking about changes to the CHL instructor renewals. The information from TSRA
https://www.tsra.com/images/stories/gen ... 072010.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
regards CHL renewals.
"GOOD NEWS FOR LICENSE HOLDERS
RENEWING THEIR CONCEALED
HANDGUN LICENSE
Beginning May 1, 2010, applicants renewing their
Concealed Handgun License will no longer be required
to submit fingerprints or photos, as part of the renewal
process."
I'm looking for some confirmation and details as this affects instructors.
Maybe I wasn't clear. THIS thread is about applications. The link at the top references a thread that's talking about changes in instructor renewals. That's what I was talking about and not really interested in.
I'm asking if anyone has any details regarding the changes in applications as noted in the link that I posted.
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:54 pm
by garcia946
WOW , kinda good news for renewals . In my mind you would think In theory since both the DPS and the FBI have our fingerprints from our apps. you would Think they would keep them so prints dont change and like our regular DL licence update the photo every so often.
I`ll be watching this for more updates....
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:14 am
by sjfcontrol
Umm, I believe the fingerprint cards are shredded after the background check is complete. As I understand it, it is illegal to retain fingerprint info without a criminal record.
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:30 am
by Charles L. Cotton
DoubleActionCHL wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:No, the thread is about changes to CHL applications, not instructors.
Chas.
DoubleActionCHL wrote:
This link is talking about changes to the CHL instructor renewals. The information from TSRA
https://www.tsra.com/images/stories/gen ... 072010.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
regards CHL renewals.
"GOOD NEWS FOR LICENSE HOLDERS
RENEWING THEIR CONCEALED
HANDGUN LICENSE
Beginning May 1, 2010, applicants renewing their
Concealed Handgun License will no longer be required
to submit fingerprints or photos, as part of the renewal
process."
I'm looking for some confirmation and details as this affects instructors.
Maybe I wasn't clear. THIS thread is about applications. The link at the top references a thread that's talking about changes in instructor renewals. That's what I was talking about and not really interested in.
I'm asking if anyone has any details regarding the changes in applications as noted in the link that I posted.
Then I'm confused. Quahog linked to a thread that was talking about changes to CHL application and processing, not to instructors. A poster early in that thread thought it referred to instructors, but he was mistaken. Those changes are the ones referenced in the DPS notice in your link.
Chas.
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:34 am
by Quahog

with Charles
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:31 pm
by DoubleActionCHL
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Then I'm confused. Quahog linked to a thread that was talking about changes to CHL application and processing, not to instructors. A poster early in that thread thought it referred to instructors, but he was mistaken. Those changes are the ones referenced in the DPS notice in your link.
Chas.
Sorry. I got to this:
sjfcontrol wrote:I believe that's for instructors...

It does not apply for CHL holders. Only CHL instructors.
and stopped reading because it appeared to be about instructors.
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:17 am
by sjfcontrol
DoubleActionCHL wrote:
Sorry. I got to this:
sjfcontrol wrote:I believe that's for instructors...

It does not apply for CHL holders. Only CHL instructors.
and stopped reading because it appeared to be about instructors.
My part was written before Charles told us about the changes at DPS. I DO understand that there are some changes in the works for instructors involving expanded use of DPS websites, but apparently that thread wasn't talking about those, but something that nobody (other than Charles) was aware of.
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:14 pm
by Tregs
sjfcontrol wrote:Umm, I believe the fingerprint cards are shredded after the background check is complete. As I understand it, it is illegal to retain fingerprint info without a criminal record.
Does anybody know for sure? iIve seen this come up in a few threads but haven't seen a definitive answer.
Re: Tx DPS Announces Changes to CHL Renewal Process
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:24 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Tregs wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:Umm, I believe the fingerprint cards are shredded after the background check is complete. As I understand it, it is illegal to retain fingerprint info without a criminal record.
Does anybody know for sure? iIve seen this come up in a few threads but haven't seen a definitive answer.
Feds can't keep fingerprints, but I'm not sure what DPS does with the actual cards. The FBI just started allowing agencies to resubmit electronic fingerprints, instead of requiring a new card.
Chas.