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We all know someone.... someone who thinks that they know the law, or know how things work, but in reality have no clue.

I made this thread so we can all share any 'gems' that have been told to us by these people.

Today, I was informed that "Shooting someone in the leg isn't [lethal force], since you're not trying to kill them", and that "It's considered the same as punching someone. You're allowed to do it before you're allowed to shoot to kill."

Legality aside, I don't know if someone who is under stress and feeling the adrenaline could be accurate enough to shoot somebody in the leg. This ain't the wild west, and I ain't Wyatt Earp.
I've had this conversation myself with a few individuals and have yet to get the point across. If it is legal to shoot them in the leg, then I am legal to shoot them center of mass.

dicion wrote: Today, I was informed that "Shooting someone in the leg isn't [lethal force], since you're not trying to kill them", and that "It's considered the same as punching someone. You're allowed to do it before you're allowed to shoot to kill."

HAHAHA! Now that's a good one. I have always been told that shooting someone below the waist is NOT attempted murder like shooting someone in the chest would be. Sounds pretty similar to what you were told except not as extreme.

....if you shoot hollow point bullets and kill an intruder, you can go to jail for murder because the hollow points are more lethal...........

.....you should not use handloads in your personal defense weapon, beacause you could cook up a load that is more devastating than factory ammo. It could be seen as cruel and unusual punishment .........

"If you make any changes to your gun and shoot someone with it you will automatically be charged with murder." Humm - - - can't change sights, grips, finish, or add a light or laser.

OMG! All my guns are illegal to use for self defense!!!

"You are 2 times more likely to have your own gun used against you than you are to protect yourself".......quoting a specific study

my immediate response was "If I miss 8 times (1911) then I deserve to have my empty gun wrestled from my hands and beaten to death with it"

After I studied the study I said. "Do you realize when you take suicide out of the data set and ONLY LOOK AT self defence use of a gun that you are 5 times more likely to survive the encounter than if you are unarmed?"

"You can open carry with a CHL now, I'm thinking about getting mine so I can carry on my hip. This is Texas!"

Told to me by a friend of a friend who I'd spent all weekend camping with in a group at Enchanted Rock while carrying concealed (only one person there knew I carried, obviously not this guy). I tried to gently correct him but after he failed to take the bait, I just let it go. Figured he'd learn in whatever CHL class he ends up taking that the C in CHL is for "Concealed".

Now if he'd told me that you could open carry without a license I would have set him straight, but he didn't have a CHL which he thought he needed to OC, so I wasn't too worried. Didn't wanna make him look like a tool in front of the girl he'd spent all weekend impressing either.

dicion wrote:We all know someone.... someone who thinks that they know the law, or know how things work, but in reality have no clue.

I made this thread so we can all share any 'gems' that have been told to us by these people.

Today, I was informed that "Shooting someone in the leg isn't [lethal force], since you're not trying to kill them", and that "It's considered the same as punching someone. You're allowed to do it before you're allowed to shoot to kill."

My answer to those kinds of things is usually along the lines of, "I'm not allowed to 'shoot to kill' under any circumstances. That would be murder. I am, however, allowed to 'shoot to stop,' and if that results in the other guy's death, well then, that's what it took to stop them."

Mine is more equipment related.

I know a fella..bless his heart, that looked at my S&W 642 and said "oooh, you got yourself a stubby".
On another occasion he told me how he wanted to get a "nine eleven".
My assumption was that he meant a 1911.

dicion wrote: Today, I was informed that "Shooting someone in the leg isn't [lethal force], since you're not trying to kill them", and that "It's considered the same as punching someone. You're allowed to do it before you're allowed to shoot to kill."

Well, actually it is. There are some very major veins and a couple arteries that run through the legs. If one of these major veins or arteries are knicked it could be very life threatening indeed.

Fangs wrote: Now if he'd told me that you could open carry without a license I would have set him straight, but he didn't have a CHL which he thought he needed to OC, so I wasn't too worried. Didn't wanna make him look like a tool in front of the girl he'd spent all weekend impressing either.

why not? If you had maybe that would have led her to change her mind and sleep in your tent!! lol

USA1 wrote:Mine is more equipment related.

I know a fella..bless his heart, that looked at my S&W 642 and said "oooh, you got yourself a stubby".
On another occasion he told me how he wanted to get a "nine eleven".
My assumption was that he meant a 1911.

i thought the pm's i sent you would be kept confidential

tauruspt145 wrote:

USA1 wrote:Mine is more equipment related.

I know a fella..bless his heart, that looked at my S&W 642 and said "oooh, you got yourself a stubby".
On another occasion he told me how he wanted to get a "nine eleven".
My assumption was that he meant a 1911.

i thought the pm's i sent you would be kept confidential

A friend recently approached me about getting her CHL, which I would, of course, encourage under any circumstance. But when I asked "why now?" I cringed at the response.

She just moved to a new neighborhood and was out walking her leashed dogs when they were aggressively approached by a dog that did not have a collar on, much less a leash. She approached the neighbor whose dog it is and they told her that the dog slips its tether "all the time" and there is nothing they can do about it.

Another neighbor, in a separate conversation, told her she ought to carry a gun so the she could pop a shot in the air to scare the dog away. Besides the fact that the logic is highly questionable, I pointed out that she could get in a deal of trouble for doing such a thing, that she is responsible for that bullet until it lands safely, and she would probably serve less time if she just shot the offending dog.

Her response was that she didn't want to hurt it, just to scare it away. And that was also her responmse when I suggested she consider pepper spray.

Eventually she was prevailed upon by a couple of us to reconsider the spray, but since she got it the dog hasn't gotten loose.

When you qualify at the range, make sure you miss the target a few times. That way you'll have an excuse for shooting center mass because you aren't a perfect shot.