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Since most of the Texas CHL Forum members are not criminal attorneys, criminals or DAs, most of their knowledge about criminal trials is probably from television and the movies. I am a fan of shows like Law & Order and NYPD Blue, but I suspect that most of the scenes in TV shows and movies would never happen in real life. How many defendents were charged or convicted because of the stuff they carried in their EDC bag? How many defendants confessed to a crime while on the witness stand? I would love to hear from people with documented incidents or first-hand experiences.

I don't know of a civil lawsuit over a justifiable self-defense incident in Texas, ever.

However, I refer you to the case of Harold Fish, who spent three years in prison after being found guilty of homicide. Some factors in his trial included the caliber of his handgun (10 mm) and the fact that he went to the range more often than the prosecutor thought was appropriate for a "civilian."

If Mr. Fish had carried pepper spray, we probably would never have heard of him.

- Jim

If out of state examples count, Bernie Goetz was judged not guilty in the shooting but served time for having a gun.

I actually don't know what an "EDC" bag is. I keep seeing that term - "EDC" - and I don't know what it is an acronym for. I assume that an "EDC" bag is some kind of a bugout bag, or emergency response bag, or something like that?

(I feel like that old Caveman Lawyer skit that Phil Hartman used to do on SNL..... "I know not what is this EDC of which you speak" )

The Annoyed Man wrote:I actually don't know what an "EDC" bag is. I keep seeing that term - "EDC" - and I don't know what it is an acronym for. I assume that an "EDC" bag is some kind of a bugout bag, or emergency response bag, or something like that?

(I feel like that old Caveman Lawyer skit that Phil Hartman used to do on SNL..... "I know not what is this EDC of which you speak" )

Don't feel bad. I had never heard of the term either. It is "Everyday Carry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everyday_carry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Every Day Carry

08thunders wrote:If out of state examples count, Bernie Goetz was judged not guilty in the shooting but served time for having a gun.

I think any legal process that occurs in New York or similar states is entirely irrelevant to Texas.

BTW, Mr. Goetz was also bankrupted by losing a civil suit that was about as political as one can get. You have to put all this in the context of 1984, when a lot of people still felt that these poor, misunderstood "yutes" had been the victims of a vicious vigilante. Attitudes have changed quite a bit, even in New York.

- Jim

WildBill wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:I actually don't know what an "EDC" bag is. I keep seeing that term - "EDC" - and I don't know what it is an acronym for. I assume that an "EDC" bag is some kind of a bugout bag, or emergency response bag, or something like that?

(I feel like that old Caveman Lawyer skit that Phil Hartman used to do on SNL..... "I know not what is this EDC of which you speak" )

Don't feel bad. I had never heard of the term either. It is "Everyday Carry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everyday_carry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Aaaaaaaahhhh, thank you both.