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And heard that there is a kid at Cowley that is threatening to shoot other kids.

Is this ever going to stop???????????????

Is this ever going to stop..... Probably not as long as parents let their kids raise themselves.
In order for moral values to be learned, they have to be taught. Television and Nintendo aren't going to do the teaching.

I agree. A lot of parents these days tend to push their responsibilities on someone else.

I agree however it will be our 2A rights that take a hit over this.

Kids that are likely candidates for this type of conduct are also ones that typically want the media attention that goes with school shootings. I know we had a discussion on this earlier and I agree that censorship is a dangerous intrusion on the First Amendment and I would not support any governmental hindrance of the media.

However, a responsible media outlet should weigh the evidence as to whether they are merely reporting events or triggering them. When it comes to school shootings, I believe it's the latter. Unfortunately, blood raises the ratings and that’s all that seems to matter these days.

Chas.

"Responsible media outlet" /s are dead. There are no such things anymore IMHO.


Even if a station is responsible in what it chooses to report, it is often irresponsible in the fact that it sensationalizes things via their on-the-street reporters. They all want to make a name and so they throw responsibility out the window.

And while blood raises ratings, you can show tragic events in a way that will maintain a high base of followers without making every school shooting into an epic tragedy worth many weeks of public pseudo-dissection/pocket-lining.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/1572397 ... l=dfw_news

Posted on Tue, Oct. 10, 2006

Crowley school reacts to 'off-hand' remark
By DEANNA BOYD
STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER

FORT WORTH — A comment made Monday night by a North Crowley Ninth Grade Campus student that he intended to bring a gun to school sparked a school and police investigation early this morning.

Lt. Dean Sullivan, police spokesman, said police and campus administrators met with the ninth-grade student this morning and determined that his comment, made Monday while returning home on a school bus from a school trip, had been an off-handed remark, overheard and misinterpreted by other students.

“There was no threat. The students were never in jeopardy. There was never a weapon,� Sullivan said.

Dr. Tam Jones, assistant superintendent over communications for the Crowley school district, said the school was not locked down. He said the matter had been resolved by the time classes started at 9 a.m.

“Our attitude right now is much like at the airport,� Jones said. “We take this stuff seriously. Every threat we investigate; no matter how big or how small.�

The media plays a large role. I believe some will stop when they starting allowing the teachers and workers who have CHL to carry at work I understand there is a Senator in Wisconsin who would like to see a program similar to the Air Marshals in the school. That is a start, but no good enough. As long as we see signs that say "Gun Free Zone" the criminals see it as a safe haven.

The problem with this is that the non-gun owning public will say enough is enough and push for a ban on gun ownership, with the blessing of the media and the UN. It will happen!!!

HighVelocity wrote:Is this ever going to stop..... Probably not as long as parents let their kids raise themselves.
In order for moral values to be learned, they have to be taught. Television and Nintendo aren't going to do the teaching.

+1,000,000, HV. Even though my kids a very young, it is important that my wife and I are involved with them. The oldest, he's almost 5, gets about an hour a week on the computer with his educational software, 1 movie per week, and he gets to watch about 2 hours worth of Disney channel on Sat. mornings. Parents need to realize that the TV isn't a babysitter.

a lot of this comes from the "my kids can do no wrong" syndrome. i've run into that a lot. when i was an SRO, i dealt with guns in the school. i squashed a lot of school shooting threats. even in a school, you have to talk to some kids like hell will come after them if they do something. i don't think a lot of kids understand the severity of their threats.

i worked what was essentially a drive-by. someone went through the bus lane and put a round through the band hall door right before school was to let out. 4 of us screwed our guns into the ear of one kid at a football game. he went around making threats with his 'chrome' pistol. it was a water gun. the parents made a huge fuss to all the higher ups. they couldn't believe 4 cops could point their guns at their kid and "treat him like a criminal" simply for carrying a squirt gun. there wasn't one kid he threatened with it that thought it was a squirt gun.

just to give you an idea of how some kids are, one girl i dealt with was 14 years old. she was released from TYC custody, but when TYC called her parents to come get her, they refused. her parents wanted nothing to do with her. about 5 months later, an aunt finally came and got her out. shortly thereafter, she went to prison for capital murder, and was the youngest person in the state of Texas to be sentenced for capital murder as an adult. she was selling drugs and it went bad. all in all, she wasn't a bad kid.

another kid i arrested a couple of times raped a girl, stabbed her 50 something times, and set her body on fire. he had to steal her car to pay a drug dealer off. his mom thought he was an angel and threw a fit when we showed up with a search warrant one day. as bad as this kid sounds, i laughed with him all the way to the jail the few times i took him in.

and on the other end of that, i arrested a lady for her daughter's truancy violation. the daughter was 17. she was working 3 jobs to pay the bills while mom stayed in a drunken stupor. she didn't have time to go to school.
another girl blew in her mom's breath interlock device so drunken mom (who'd already had several DWIs) could drive them to school.

there is nothing mechanical to blame here. it's all a lack of parental responsibility. just like columbine, the parents were oblivious to their kids' actions because they just didn't care to be involved. parental neglect is the root cause of a ton of crimes.

dws1117 wrote:about an hour a week on the computer with his educational software, 1 movie per week, and he gets to watch about 2 hours worth of Disney channel on Sat. mornings. Parents need to realize that the TV isn't a babysitter.

If there were only more parents with common sence. Whatever happened to "go outside and play. . ." There are too many people that have children that are NOT "parents."

what ever happened to fist fights? Now everybody are nothing more than ego inflated weaklings ages (14-30) now a fights consist's of mass numbers of people agaisnt one with weapons. The first "fighting words" out of peoples mouths nowadays is "I'll kill you" with nothing to back it up other than that pistol in there pants and how eager they are to pull it and show how bad they are. In another 50-75 yrs I can see there being heavy gun control reform, there are no morals left in society, respect has gone the way of the horse and buggy,

dws1117 wrote:The oldest, he's almost 5, gets about an hour a week on the computer with his educational software, 1 movie per week, and he gets to watch about 2 hours worth of Disney channel on Sat. mornings. Parents need to realize that the TV isn't a babysitter.

One of the things my grandparents did for a while when I was growing up was to tape every educational (truly educational, that is - lots of PBS and Discovery type shows, with some selected current events stuff) program that they could. I could watch those all I wanted, but they put limits on other TV viewing. They figured that if I wanted to veg out in front of the TV, good learning shows made up for a lot.

KDTN used to run a lot of 15 and 30 minute shows geared to classroom instruction and homeschoolers after midnight just so that teachers and parents could tape them for later use. IIRC, there was a great advanced math show, one for Spanish, and a couple others. (Anybody closer to Denton know if they still do this? It'd be worth rigging an antenna to get, since the tapes are long since gone.)

I see a lot of good stuff on PBS here.

I had to get onto a kid in my class today for creating a fake tatoo on himself that said, "CRIP" (a gang).

I had a counselor talk to him, but when he got smart with her she let the assistant principal talk to him. When he got smart with the assistant principal, she let the officer have him. The officer doesn't put up with foolishness. He said that if we found anything like that on him again, junior crip would be taking a trip downtown in a cop car.

This kid was rather proud of his gang. I see him wearing violent t-shirts all the time and think, "Why do they buy this for him?"