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Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:58 pm
by Carry-a-Kimber
The Akin's Accelerator was a stock out a few years back for the 10/22 that did the same thing. It was on the market for a few years, then the ATF decided it ws illegal, even though it did not change the fire control mechanism, only the way the recoil was absorbed and used to help facilitate rapid fire. I would not buy one of these even if the ATF approves it. They approved the Akins Accelerator and later changed their mind. The ATF plays by their own rules.
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Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:01 pm
by Beiruty
I saw one seller at gun show and his said it is 100% legal with each stock sold he is including a letter from BATF that says it is legal.
For the record, i am not touching this thing!

Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:04 pm
by i8godzilla
Beiruty wrote:I saw one seller at gun show and his said it is 100% legal with each stock sold he is including a letter from BATF that says it is legal.
For the record, i am not touching this thing!
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David Koresh showed the county sheriff department a "Hellfire" device, a quick-firing trigger sold with an ATF letter that it is not a machinegun.
Did not seem to work out too well for him.

Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:41 pm
by 74novaman
one wearing a cranial ornament made of tin foil might even say the ATF enjoys declaring things legal now just so they have an excuse to harass gun owners later....

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Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:40 am
by Bullwhip
Beiruty wrote:I saw one seller at gun show and his said it is 100% legal with each stock sold he is including a letter from BATF that says it is legal.
Akins had the same letter. Legal until ATF said it wasn't.

Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:40 am
by The Annoyed Man
Maybe worth having one and not mounting it, but burying it for the zombie apocalypse. But I sure wouldn't show up at a range with it in an age when the BATF throws you in prison for shooting an AR that has a non-duplicatable slam fire incident.

At my age and stage of debility, I'm not going to go assaulting into building. So aimed semi-auto fire is going to be far more effective for me.

Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:26 am
by HighVelocity
I've never been a fan of gimmick devices for firearms. If you want to shoot full auto, do it the right way, pay the money, get your legal paperwork and lots of ammo.

Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:04 pm
by hirundo82
HighVelocity wrote:I've never been a fan of gimmick devices for firearms. If you want to shoot full auto, do it the right way, pay the money, get your legal paperwork and lots of ammo.
+1 to that; the only devices like this that the ATF lets remain on the market are the ones that don't work.

When I have the money to get into FA goodies, my first purchase will probably be a registered AR-15 lower and a .22lr upper to go with it. That seems to be the best way to keep ammo prices reasonable.

Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:54 pm
by Ameer
HighVelocity wrote:I've never been a fan of gimmick devices for firearms. If you want to shoot full auto, do it the right way, pay the money, get your legal paperwork and lots of ammo.
Same as if you want to attend a Catholic church, except for the ammo?

When was "shall not be infringed" erased from the constitution?

Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:59 pm
by pbwalker
I don't get the full auto fascination as well. Maybe it was because I shot a bunch of full auto in the military, but it is a huge waste of ammo and I'm not laying down suppressive fire anytime soon. I'll pass...

Re: Bump-fire AR15 stock...

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:51 pm
by Bart
Like Sergeant-Major Plumley said in We Were Soldiers, "if the time comes I need one, there'll be plenty lying on the ground."