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Basically, a woman was allegedly raped by 3 men with criminal histories on campus. She is suing TCU because they advertise to be safe. Here are some interesting quotes:

According to documents entered as evidence, TCU is in a low-crime area, but even so, there is no way university personnel could have protected the woman from crime, TCU attorneys argue.

To expect that would place too great a burden on university officials, they argue.

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/01/18 ... es-default" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;#ixzz1BUFKaCSg

I find it interesting that people in power at businesses / schools / government etc... believe you shouldn't carry on their property, partly because they purport it to be safe. However, time and again, I have read quotes like the above. Once you put them in a court of law, they admit that your safety is not their responsibility.

The message I got was that my safety is my responsibility, and that it is also my responsibility to ensure that laws are passed/repealed so that I can protect myself at as many locations as possible. In other words, maybe it is time to start sending money to the NRA and TSRA.

BTin wrote:
I find it interesting that people in power at businesses / schools / government etc... believe you shouldn't carry on their property, partly because they purport it to be safe. However, time and again, I have read quotes like the above. Once you put them in a court of law, they admit that your safety is not their responsibility.

The message I got was that my safety is my responsibility, and that it is also my responsibility to ensure that laws are passed/repealed so that I can protect myself at as many locations as possible. In other words, maybe it is time to start sending money to the NRA and TSRA.

See my wish list - http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 15#p497657" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To quote one paragraph:
Better yet, ban businesses and employers from banning firearms. Yes I know they can ban them if they want to. I consider business private property in a lower class than personal private property. You can ban me from carrying on your property with your home, but I don't think you should have the same right on business or commercial property. They are used for vastly different purposes. You generally don't have large number of people unknown to you coming and going at your house, but businesses do with no control, which raises the risk to me. Yes I can shop elsewhere, but put the burden on them, not me.

Private property owners should be held liable for the safety and security of guests on their property if they prohibit the guests from keeping means to defend themselves.

Will be interesting to see how this turns out for TCU.
Certainly casts a shadow over them.

Athletes with prior criminal records
Including one with a revoked probation for previous crimes
Well documented Professor complaints
History of trouble making on campus
Pressure from the athletic department
..... Leading up to...
Alleged Rape

Campus carry would not have prevented this horrible event. But it may prevent others.

jordanmills wrote:Private property owners should be held liable for the safety and security of guests on their property if they prohibit the guests from keeping means to defend themselves.

Private property owners are liable. That is why we have LIABILTY INSURANCE coveage on top of our my regular homeowner's insurance.