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New type of bullet

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:30 pm
by JJVP
The bullet breaks into three parts connected by a tether. :cool:

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Warning blatant use of PROFANITY!

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Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:37 pm
by RPB
interesting, but I'll stick with Critical Defense and Gold Dots.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:39 pm
by G.A. Heath
I truthfully don't see this round as being a good idea. Three projectiles tethered together are not going to be accurate and could become a liability both in the legal system AND in a fight. The potential for the tether(s) to fail permitting all three projectiles to go whacky and hit random people is only one reason I see this as a bad idea.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:22 pm
by MoJo
The army tried something like this during WWII. They had some shot shells loaded with 00 buck strung together like a string of pearls. The idea was to use it as an anti paratrooper round. In theory the shell would spread wide enough to cut a large hole in the canopy causing rapid descent resulting in death or injury to the paratrooper. It didn't work the tether kept breaking. Also, the spread of the shot wasn't enough to damage a parachute badly enough to cause a hazard. The whole idea was dumped.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:23 am
by rmr1923
T3 is the first bullet to interconnect three separate segments with Kevlar strings that expand like a spider web to a predetermined diameter and spread pattern that not only dramatically improves the accuracy and hit probability, but does so without disrupting the normal flight path of a spinning bullet

i'm having a hard time believing that their computer-generated simulations show what this bullet will do when actually fired. i'd like to see a real round fired and captured on high speed camera so they can slow it down and show the bullet's flight path. i'd also like to see what a crosswind does to its trajectory. if fired at close range i think it would be fairly accurate, but beyond that i'd prefer my JPHs. i don't see these catching on at all.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:19 am
by AJ80
I think they would be fun to shoot at paper targets, but I really can't see carrying those.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:51 am
by Dave2
AJ80 wrote:I think they would be fun to shoot at paper targets, but I really can't see carrying those.
For me, it depends on what they do to the paper targets. If the main hole is still where I aimed, then I could see having a few at the top of the magazine being real handy if you're shooting a moving target.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:25 am
by Jbird5363
Can you imagine the fun you could have shooting pumpkins and watermelons with those.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:57 am
by speedsix
...not really new...been around in several forms...more info available if you yahoo search bolo shotgun shells...an expensive gimmick...not really effective...

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:46 am
by PeteCamp
Consider the source. By his own admission, Robert knows nothing useful about guns. He used to write about cars. He showed up over on ShotgunWorld asking if he could pay someone $20 an hour to coach him in the use of a shotgun for home defense. After reading the tripe he writes, everyone decided he was a shill. Read his garbage at your own risk.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:52 am
by RPB
bola, or boleadora
http://www.flight-toys.com/bolas.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd worry that it might just scratch while it temporarily anchored in the bad guy, then sling around and hit others after it pulled the light weight piece out of the bad guy. And yeah, I'd worry the tethers will break too.

I'm sticking to "time tested and proven" ammo for defense.

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:38 pm
by olafpfj
The manufacturing quality controls would have to be astronomical and surely cost prohibitive. If one of the attachment cables is even the slightest bit longer or shorter the whole thing will be horribly destabilized. Bullet manufacturers strive for perfect concentricity with their product and acknowledge that the slightest bulge or variance in weight distribution will cause the bullet to not fly true. Its hard to keep it perfect with a small diameter bullet and will be impossible when this thing expands to its full width. Not to mention that they have to expand and pull their tethers tight at exactly the same moment. If one gets to the end too early it will pull the whole thing wonky in a big way. If you think balancing your ceiling fan is difficult imagine what would be involved getting this stupid thing working right.

Even if these things ever worked right I would never use them and if they ever got it working they would cost $200 a round at the least. Nice try though. For every good idea that makes it there are thousands that don't and thats the origin of the saying...1% inspiration and 99% persperation.... :lol:

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:58 pm
by doc540
Will it make badguys fly backwards through windows?

That's the kind of ammo I'm looking for. :rolll

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:09 pm
by jimlongley
Looks to me like they are reinventing "chain shot" which was used back in the black powder days of wooden ships and iron men. The concept was that you fired a projectile that consisted of two heavy parts connected by a chain, and as it whirled through the air it would tear up the opposing ships' rigging. Obviously not highly accurate and specifically designed to be used at close range, it was rarely used against personnel as grapeshot and cannister shot were much more effective for that.

Anybody going to take on a full rigged schooner with a handgun?

Re: New type of bullet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:09 pm
by WildBill
doc540 wrote:Will it make badguys fly backwards through windows?

That's the kind of ammo I'm looking for. :rolll
I think that Batman had something like this in his utility belt. :lol:

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