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Update:30.06 signs at city hall, rec center and library
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:59 pm
by SlideMan
I work for a local city in North Texas and the city has posted 30.06 signs at city hall, rec-center and public library. No government court or court offices in either location. I believe this could be in response to my inquiring about the citys policy of weapons in locked employee vehicles while in city parking lots. Opened a can of worms I guess.
My question is what authorities, local, state or otherwise would I contact to have these signs removed.
If it became known that I’m involved I would be dismissed (fired) for sure and I’m only 4 years away from full retirement.
Thanks in advance.SlideMan
Got word today that at the recommedation of the assistant City Manager and the Chief of Police the City Counsel "voted" to remove 30.06 signs at city hall and allow CHL's to attend City Counsel meetings. The assistant City Manager told the counsel that if a shooter started shooting counsel members during a meeting that he would want all the CHL guns he could get into the chambers. The Police Chief agreed.
Apparently so did the counsel members.
SlideMan
Re: Update:30.06 signs at city hall, rec center and library
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:03 pm
by RPB
SlideMan wrote:I work for a local city in North Texas and the city has posted 30.06 signs at city hall, rec-center and public library. No government court or court offices in either location. I believe this could be in response to my inquiring about the citys policy of weapons in locked employee vehicles while in city parking lots. Opened a can of worms I guess.
My question is what authorities, local, state or otherwise would I contact to have these signs removed.
If it became known that I’m involved I would be dismissed (fired) for sure and I’m only 4 years away from full retirement.
Thanks in advance.SlideMan
Got word today that at the recommedation of the
assistant City Manager and the Chief of Police the City Counsel "voted" to remove 30.06 signs at city hall and allow CHL's to attend City Counsel meetings. The assistant City Manager told the counsel that if a shooter started shooting counsel members during a meeting that he would want all the CHL guns he could get into the chambers. The Police Chief agreed.
Apparently so did the counsel members.
SlideMan
Coolness .... reasonable people in local government, that's refreshing.
May be a city I didn't even have to send my "form letter" to the City Atty, City Council, Mayor, Police chief, etc ... dunno ...
Re: Update:30.06 signs at city hall, rec center and library
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:05 pm
by Beiruty
Man, you can talk about common sense "gun control" of something bad that might happen. Bloomberg and his team are now really
Re: Update:30.06 signs at city hall, rec center and library
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:11 pm
by RPB
Thanks for the update.
Here was the original thread, with "form letter" and notes.
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Kinda sounds like the city council and Police educated themselves instead of playing that Miss America song "feelings"
TO:
Mayor,
City Attorney,
City Secretary,
City Police,
Each City Council member.
(Parks Dept, etc etc etc as needed)
Re: Update:30.06 signs at city hall, rec center and library
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:19 pm
by C-dub
I know they had to vote to remove due to procedure and all, but I still find it a little funny that they had to vote to correct something that was kind of "illegal." The comments of the Assistant City Manager are priceless.
Re: Update:30.06 signs at city hall, rec center and library
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:33 pm
by RPB
lol yeah,
They have to vote to "make legal" removal of unenforceable signs,
but
it makes them look good politically potentially
saving the city money from a false arrest and civil rights suit.
Reason I send it to EVERYONE, If just sent to one person, they'd throw it away, but city atty will want researching fees, Council and/or Mayor will ask opinion on it, ordinances may need exceptions added which Council will vote upon anyway and they'll know they have to all vote to "make it legal" City Secretary is often the person the City Charter says you "give notice" to ... Police Chief is responsible for informing officers they can't arrest CHLs in good faith for that which isn't illegal.
Also, "someone" will remember getting that, even if they do nothing, so if anything "occurred" (an unlawful arrest) no worry that the "one you sent it to" just trashed it and says he never got it.
By sending it to everyone, and everyone knowing who else got it, it usually becomes "water cooler talk" at City Hall, and gets fixed.
Of course city hall,... may have one legally posted while Council is in session "political meetings"
I'm glad they appear to have researched even further and decided not to post political meetings either.
Re: Update:30.06 signs at city hall, rec center and library
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:46 pm
by shipwreck
Good to hear of the right outcome :)