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Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:07 pm
by WildBill
A Precinct 6 Constable's Office deputy was in a remote area of the building when he accidentally discharged his weapon, hitting himself in the thigh. He is expected to recover.
Rule Number Two - Keep that booger-hook off the bang switch.
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Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:35 pm
by cougartex
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:58 pm
by Beiruty
Another Glock leg?
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:29 pm
by Grog
Beiruty wrote:Another Glock leg?
No, just a retard who should not be allowed to carry a gun.
BTW, I managed to carry a Glock many years without any issues, does that make me a walking miracle that my Glock did not "make" me shoot myself in the leg?
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:43 pm
by Crossfire
The "Glock leg" joke is starting to wear a little thin. I believe there are many, many of us who carry a Glock on a daily basis and have not managed to shoot ourselves yet.
No gun is idiot proof. Not a Glock, and not your pretty little 1911's with all your fancy sissy switches. (You might call them "safeties".) The only safety you can actually rely on is the one between your ears.
Keep your finger off the trigger when it doesn't belong there, and stop blaming the equipment when it is an operator failure!
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:18 pm
by Teamless
Crossfire Wrote:
The "Glock leg" joke is starting to wear a little thin
I have talked with a lot of new shooters, taken them to range and gone looking at new weapons with them, almost all of them love the feel of the glock, but do not like the "trigger safety", and want more safeties.
They do like the Springfield with the backstrap and trigger safeties however.
While I agree there is a safety between our ears, but if cops shoot themselves just holstering or unholstering or showing off, what advice would you Glock carriers give me to justify them buying the gun that they say is a great gun to shoot, but not one they want to own, due to Glock Leg, etc.
(edited to add the quote by Crossfire)
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:18 pm
by GeekwithaGun
Crossfire wrote:The "Glock leg" joke is starting to wear a little thin. I believe there are many, many of us who carry a Glock on a daily basis and have not managed to shoot ourselves yet.
No gun is idiot proof. Not a Glock, and not your pretty little 1911's with all your fancy sissy switches. (You might call them "safeties".) The only safety you can actually rely on is the one between your ears.
Keep your finger off the trigger when it doesn't belong there, and stop blaming the equipment when it is an operator failure!

Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:30 pm
by OldCurlyWolf
I have always wondered about the HC Constables, ever since Bill Bailey got elected as one.

Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:44 pm
by Crossfire
Teamless wrote:I have talked with a lot of new shooters, taken them to range and gone looking at new weapons with them, almost all of them love the feel of the glock, but do not like the "trigger safety", and want more safeties.
They do like the Springfield with the backstrap and trigger safeties however.
While I agree there is a safety between our ears, but if cops shoot themselves just holstering or unholstering or showing off, what advice would you Glock carriers give me to justify them buying the gun that they say is a great gun to shoot, but not one they want to own, due to Glock Leg, etc.
For those who absolutely cannot trust themselves to keep their fingers off the triggers, there is this handly little device called a Saf-T-Blok. Goes behind the trigger, has an adjusting screw so you can make it as tight as you want, and can be ejected easily with the trigger finger. Here is some info on it:
http://www.clipdraw.com/store/index.php ... how_detail" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:12 pm
by Lonest4r
Crossfire wrote: I believe there are many, many of us who carry a Glock on a daily basis and have not managed to shoot ourselves yet.
*Glock carrier* here haven't shot myself yet, but then again I have only been carrying for less than a year. I will be sure to let you know if I ever get the infamous Glock-leg for your statistical records.
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:20 pm
by WildBill
The story didn't say what kind of gun or holster the constable was using. One of the reasons you hear about this happening with Glocks is probably because they are the most popular handgun being carried by LEOs.
Many estimates place Glock's market share among U.S. police departments at over 60%
This one of the reasons that I stick with a stiff non-collapsible holster. I believe that trying to reholster a gun into a flattened holster makes it easier to accidently put your finger on the trigger.
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:32 pm
by C-dub
Teamless wrote:While I agree there is a safety between our ears, but if cops shoot themselves just holstering or unholstering or showing off, what advice would you Glock carriers give me to justify them buying the gun that they say is a great gun to shoot, but not one they want to own, due to Glock Leg, etc.
(edited to add the quote by Crossfire)
Same advice I give people that ride motorcycles and especially the ones that go REALLY fast. Always respect the bike and never get complacent and think that it will not hurt you if given the chance. A little bit of fear can be a healthy reminder.
BTW, I must have two of the nice Glocks. Neither one of them has attacked me.
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:16 pm
by tacticool
Most of the self-shooters would probably have shot themselves with a S&W DA revolver if they were born a generation or two earlier.
Press trigger = gun fires. Don't press trigger = gun doesn't fire.
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:20 pm
by WildBill
tacticool wrote:Most of the self-shooters would probably have shot themselves with a S&W DA revolver if they were born a generation or two earlier.
Press trigger = gun fires. Don't press trigger = gun doesn't fire.
Probably most of the LEOs. The few people who I know who shot themselves did it with S/A revolvers trying to do "quick draws" like the cowboys on TV and in the Western movies.
Re: Constable Shoots Himself
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:33 pm
by baldeagle
Teamless wrote:I have talked with a lot of new shooters, taken them to range and gone looking at new weapons with them, almost all of them love the feel of the glock, but do not like the "trigger safety", and want more safeties.
They do like the Springfield with the backstrap and trigger safeties however.
My Sigs don't have a safety either. They're DA/SA, so it's a little harder to pull the trigger
if you remembered to decock but would be much easier than a Glock if you forgot. But even at 4.5 lbs of trigger pull, you still have to pull the trigger to fire the weapon.
Teamless wrote:While I agree there is a safety between our ears, but if cops shoot themselves just holstering or unholstering or showing off, what advice would you Glock carriers give me to justify them buying the gun that they say is a great gun to shoot, but not one they want to own, due to Glock Leg, etc.
I'd give them the same advice I'd give anyone else.
Keep your finger off the trigger! Your finger has no business being anywhere near the trigger when you are holstering or drawing your weapon. There is no reason to be near the trigger. And the "lack" of a safety isn't the reason people get "Glock leg". It's because they released the safety by putting their finger on the trigger. What makes you think that a person who is careless enough to put their finger on the trigger while holstering or drawing their weapon is any more likely to remember to enable the safety on a gun that has one?
The problem isn't the weapon. It's the operator.
Personally I don't like the feel of Glocks at all. That's why I will never buy one. But it has nothing to do with the "lack" of a safety.