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Okay...John Woods claims to be a "victim" of VT.

Was he actually there, in the line of fire, when the gunman fired on all of those people? Did he get hurt? Was he shot?

I've been to Mexico, but not in a long while. Can I still consider myself a "victim" of border violence?

Someone needs go call him out on this.

Jasonw560 wrote:Okay...John Woods claims to be a "victim" of VT.

Was he actually there, in the line of fire, when the gunman fired on all of those people? Did he get hurt? Was he shot?

I've been to Mexico, but not in a long while. Can I still consider myself a "victim" of border violence?

Someone needs go call him out on this.

Only if a girl that you dated once or might have asked out on a date if you could have mustered up the nerve to do so was killed in Mexico or at least received a paper cut as the direct result of the actions of a person from Mexico or of Mexican descent.

So I AM a victim!!!

Before dad met mom, his girlfriend was the famous Betty Grable.
He told me once I'm lucky he met mom before he ever got a chance to actually meet Betty and tell her though.

You do have to wonder about people whose imaginations go way overboard/wild on many other topics though.

The viewing ones self as a victim is a symptom of a mental disease written about on the irrational fear of guns by psychiatrists. It is a treatable disease. (For more info search this forum for the red part: "A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality By Sarah Thompson, M.D")

I just read the whole thing. Very insightful. To be truthful, it might work if Kory or austinrealtor or someone else opens a dialog and invites Gallegos or Van de Putte or West or Lucio to the range. I don't think think they're the Schumer/Feinstein types.

Is there a link to the whole article? If not, here it is: http://www.gunlaws.com/Hoplophobia%20Analysis.htm

Jasonw560 wrote:I just read the whole thing. Very insightful. To be truthful, it might work if Kory or austinrealtor or someone else opens a dialog and invites Gallegos or Van de Putte or West or Lucio to the range. I don't think think they're the Schumer/Feinstein types.

Is there a link to the whole article? If not, here it is: http://www.gunlaws.com/Hoplophobia%20Analysis.htm

Fixed it for you...

Jasonw560 wrote:Okay...John Woods claims to be a "victim" of VT.

Was he actually there, in the line of fire, when the gunman fired on all of those people? Did he get hurt? Was he shot?

I've been to Mexico, but not in a long while. Can I still consider myself a "victim" of border violence?

Someone needs go call him out on this.

His pysche got hurt.
The thing about his "girlfriend" bothers me even more.

Jasonw560 wrote:Okay...John Woods claims to be a "victim" of VT.

Was he actually there, in the line of fire, when the gunman fired on all of those people? Did he get hurt? Was he shot?

I've been to Mexico, but not in a long while. Can I still consider myself a "victim" of border violence?

Someone needs go call him out on this.

My understanding is that Mr. Woods was having breakfast offsite nowhere near the campus. By his logic I am a survivor of 9/11. I was in Canada at the time and was scheduled to fly from Calgary to Houston that afternoon. Needless to say, my flight was cancelled. Does that mean that I can get some of that money they are giving to the victims of 9/11?

I imagine there were plenty of students who felt terrorized after the shooting who had no greater connection than being students of the same university. He was a student of the university and his girlfriend of 6 months was tragically killed in the worst mass shooting in US history. There are plenty of things to validly criticize, but the fact that he feels victimized is not one I think charity or compassion or even logic would allow on that list. He did lose quite a lot.

Hoi Polloi wrote:I imagine there were plenty of students who felt terrorized after the shooting who had no greater connection than being students of the same university. He was a student of the university and his girlfriend of 6 months was tragically killed in the worst mass shooting in US history. There are plenty of things to validly criticize, but the fact that he feels victimized is not one I think charity or compassion or even logic would allow on that list. He did lose quite a lot.

I understand where you are coming from. My wife works for the public school system, as the administrator of a special program. She comes into contact with parents of all types. There was one that she told me about that was extremely disturbing. My wife called the parent "crazy", and she doesn't throw that label around lightly. This parent, it sounds like, is the type of person that concealed carry is meant to defend one's self from.

I often wonder how I would feel if that parent did have a gun and the unthinkable happened.

We have a lot invested in each other--10 years, 2 kids, house--our lives, basically. A lot of emotional investment in each other.

I would consider myself and my family victims if something happened, because of the love and the commitment, and because two little boys would not have a mother the adored, and I would have lost the love of my life. That would have been life-changing.

But after just 6 months of she and I dating, I don't know if my feelings about it would have been that strong.

Jasonw560 wrote:But after just 6 months of she and I dating, I don't know if my feelings about it would have been that strong.

That was my point. I am sure that Mr. Woods feels a sense of loss and would feel that way about any person who he personally knew.

WildBill wrote:

Jasonw560 wrote:But after just 6 months of she and I dating, I don't know if my feelings about it would have been that strong.

That was my point. I am sure that Mr. Woods feels a sense of loss and would feel that way about any person who he personally knew.

He says now that he loved her and did not tell her. Whatever his feelings were then, he is now grieving the opportunity for marriage and children with the love of his life. There is no way, and no need, for us to armchair quarterback the strength of his affection of whether it was appropriately sufficient for him to feel victimized. He has told us all we need to know about that: he does now feel victimized. Meet him where he is, have some compassion however you can relate, and then deal with the actual issues at hand which do not at all rely on his emotions or grief.

Hoi Polloi wrote:

WildBill wrote:

Jasonw560 wrote:But after just 6 months of she and I dating, I don't know if my feelings about it would have been that strong.

That was my point. I am sure that Mr. Woods feels a sense of loss and would feel that way about any person who he personally knew.

Whatever his feelings were then, he is now grieving the opportunity for marriage and children with the love of his life.

Did he actually say this?

...sounds like he's been coached by "the Texas Hammer"...

Hoi Polloi wrote:

WildBill wrote:

Jasonw560 wrote:But after just 6 months of she and I dating, I don't know if my feelings about it would have been that strong.

That was my point. I am sure that Mr. Woods feels a sense of loss and would feel that way about any person who he personally knew.

He says now that he loved her and did not tell her. Whatever his feelings were then, he is now grieving the opportunity for marriage and children with the love of his life. There is no way, and no need, for us to armchair quarterback the strength of his affection of whether it was appropriately sufficient for him to feel victimized. He has told us all we need to know about that: he does now feel victimized. Meet him where he is, have some compassion however you can relate, and then deal with the actual issues at hand which do not at all rely on his emotions or grief.

I think the guy is in love with the camera.