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Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:16 pm
by Heartland Patriot
Who is taking receipt of them, and how do I get on the waiting list? I'd bet they'll sell out in about a month.

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:18 pm
by JustMe
Heartland Patriot wrote:Who is taking receipt of them, and how do I get on the waiting list? I'd bet they'll sell out in about a month.

DOJ---for F & F phase II

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:35 pm
by The Annoyed Man
“The U.S. government approved the imports of some 86,000 of the rifles,” said Lee Sun-chul, deputy defense minister for force and resources management.

The historic firearms are expected to be sold to American Korean War veterans and their families in time for the 62nd anniversary of the Korean War, which falls on June 25 this year.”
So what about those of us who are neither Korean War veterans nor related to Korean War veterans?

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:54 pm
by PBratton
Call up the CMP and order one of theirs.

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:57 pm
by G26ster
The CMP still has bushel baskets full of M1 Garands for sale at prices that the importers will never beat. I don't believe that these Korean Garands were loaned to Korea, but rather sold to them. Must be, because the article says Korea will use the money to purchase locally produced rifles. A country cannot sell rifles we loaned them. If they were not lend lease, then importers will have to buy them, and sell them to the public. The import stamp they will be required to place on the metal will decrease its value to many, but not all, collectors, but I'll bet they'll still be far higher in price than CMP rifles. And, with CMP rifles, you are guaranteed 100% USGI parts, and a rifle that has been inspected, is safe, and deemed to have much service life left. Here's a link to the CMP Garand Sales page:



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Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:08 pm
by G26ster
PBratton wrote:Call up the CMP and order one of theirs.
Not that simple (except for parts, after you have been a customer). The CMP has four requirements for purchase: age over 18, US citizenship, firearms related activity, and membership in a CMP affiliated organization. You must submit the application paperwork and proof of the above with your money. They do the background check, and the rifle is sent directly to you. No FFL required.

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:13 am
by texasmusic
I thought they had some carbines too?
G26ster wrote:
PBratton wrote:Call up the CMP and order one of theirs.
Not that simple (except for parts, after you have been a customer). The CMP has four requirements for purchase: age over 18, US citizenship, firearms related activity, and membership in a CMP affiliated organization. You must submit the application paperwork and proof of the above with your money. They do the background check, and the rifle is sent directly to you. No FFL required.
As far as CMP requirements... CHL counts for the firearms qualification. You can join GCA (garand collectors association) by mail, online or standing in line to purchase at CMP(in person of course). You are only 25 bucks and a week wait away from putting your order in. The $25 being negated by the FFL fee normally charged.

edit: the $25 for CMP is for the GCA membership, which expires in September if I remember correctly.

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:24 am
by G26ster
texasmusic wrote:I thought they had some carbines too?
The CMP has been out of carbines "for sale" since last year, and doesn't expect any more in the future. They still have some Bavarian Lend Lease, and M1A1 Paratrooper carbines, on their auction site, but those go for megabucks if you win!!

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:26 am
by texasmusic
I know CMP has been out of standard carbines for a while... I thought Korea had some.

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:33 am
by G26ster
texasmusic wrote:I know CMP has been out of standard carbines for a while... I thought Korea had some.
Oops! Misunderstood. Yes, Korea has 6-700,000 carbines, but supposedly they are still banning the import of them due to magazine capacity. This whole thing has been nothing but rumors on M1 Carbine and other Militaria boards for years. Some boards have totally banned further discussion of the subject it got so bad. No one believes anything anymore, especially articles in the Korea Times. That said, either side of this debacle could be right, but I won't believe anything until the U.S. Gov't makes a formal announcement.

Edit: All reports on the Korean Garands and Carbines have come from one initial source - The Korea Times. To my knowledge, not a single U.S. document has ever been produced showing either approval or disapproval of the so-called sale. It seems it's in Korea's interest to occasionally bring up the topic with some "news" to keep interest in these rifles going. But that is just MHO. But, of course, the article leaves the Korea Times an "out" when they say, "A senior defense ministry official, however, raised the possibility that the U.S. government may cancel the plan to allow the purchase the M1s, saying Seoul has yet to finalize negotiations with Washington." "We have yet to receive confirmation from the United States over our proposal,” he said. “The U.S. government may change its position at the last minute due to political considerations.” This is pretty much the same info published last year, with the Korea Times as the source.

Bottom line - if you want a genuine 100% USGI M1 Garand, buy it from the CMP. If you want the same in a Carbine, bid and win a M1 Carbine on the CMP Auction site. A little riskier is to buy one off the CMP Parts For Sale or Trade Forum - M1 Carbine (http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=88" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) and only buy one that has the original CMP certificate, and the seller guarantees no parts were swapped since it left the CMP if these things matter to you. Usually an honest bunch over there.

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:38 am
by PBratton
G26ster wrote:
PBratton wrote:Call up the CMP and order one of theirs.
Not that simple (except for parts, after you have been a customer). The CMP has four requirements for purchase: age over 18, US citizenship, firearms related activity, and membership in a CMP affiliated organization. You must submit the application paperwork and proof of the above with your money. They do the background check, and the rifle is sent directly to you. No FFL required.
So, what's not simple about that? I update my club membership with them every year.

Best deal on Garands anywhere, best Customer service you'd ever want.

If you'd rather wait on the Korean Garands, ok. The CMP has initially turned them down, I've heard that they are not in great shape.

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:14 am
by G26ster
PBratton wrote:
G26ster wrote:
PBratton wrote:Call up the CMP and order one of theirs.
Not that simple (except for parts, after you have been a customer). The CMP has four requirements for purchase: age over 18, US citizenship, firearms related activity, and membership in a CMP affiliated organization. You must submit the application paperwork and proof of the above with your money. They do the background check, and the rifle is sent directly to you. No FFL required.
So, what's not simple about that? I update my club membership with them every year.

Best deal on Garands anywhere, best Customer service you'd ever want.

If you'd rather wait on the Korean Garands, ok. The CMP has initially turned them down, I've heard that they are not in great shape.
The "simple" I was addressing was the "call up" part. You can't just call and order a rifle. From the CMP site - "Rifles and receivers may only be ordered through mail order. The CMP does not accept telephone, fax, or online orders for firearms." And no, I'm not waiting for anything as I DO prefer CMP rifles over all others.

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:48 am
by old farmer
Heartland Patriot wrote:Who is taking receipt of them, and how do I get on the waiting list? I'd bet they'll sell out in about a month.
:patriot: :iagree: :bigear: :drool: :txflag:

Re: US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:14 pm
by rentz
texasmusic wrote:I thought they had some carbines too?
G26ster wrote:
PBratton wrote:Call up the CMP and order one of theirs.
Not that simple (except for parts, after you have been a customer). The CMP has four requirements for purchase: age over 18, US citizenship, firearms related activity, and membership in a CMP affiliated organization. You must submit the application paperwork and proof of the above with your money. They do the background check, and the rifle is sent directly to you. No FFL required.
As far as CMP requirements... CHL counts for the firearms qualification. You can join GCA (garand collectors association) by mail, online or standing in line to purchase at CMP(in person of course). You are only 25 bucks and a week wait away from putting your order in. The $25 being negated by the FFL fee normally charged.

edit: the $25 for CMP is for the GCA membership, which expires in September if I remember correctly.
I'm patiently waiting on my GSSF membership packet so I can qualify for CMP purchase.
I have always wanted a garand and their prices are great.