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1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:32 am
by Astro99
Just bought a 1911 and I took it to the local range and I got through 2 mags fine and than noticed I was having trouble with the last round FTF problems. Maybe 3 times out of 100 rounds loading full mags. Is there really a break in period on modern 1911s or is that a myth. Would it be a weak mag spring? Recoil spring? Or "break in" period. Everything else was 100% other than that. I took it out the box and cleaned it and lubed it. This is my first 1911 so please be nice if u respond lol.

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:01 am
by RPBrown
Most all guns have a break in period. Different manufactures have different requirements.
Also, if you did not break it down and clean it before you took it to the range, you may have a build up of powder residue in the packing grease.
Could be a weak spring in the magizine or any of several different causes. Again, a lot has to do with the manufacture as to the break in period.

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:50 am
by ghostrider
Last round is your clue. Weak magazine spring trying to push the rim of the last round up under a strong extractor.
there you go.
Always listen to Andy :-)

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:38 am
by G.A. Heath
In addition to what Andy said, what kind of ammo are you feeding it? What does the follower on the magazine look like (is there a bump in the middle of it)? Are the feed lips symmetrical? Is the magazine a flush fit unit, and if it is how many rounds does it hold? It definitely sounds like a magazine issue, like 99.9% of all semi-auto problems, so please do not listen to people who tell you to "Polish" the feed ramp.

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:17 am
by MoJo
Many 1911 pistols come from the factory with junk mags. Get a Tripp, Wilson, CMC, or MecGar magazine and see if that fixes the problem. A certain manufacturer of 1911 pistols is notorious for poor mag quality. I'm not naming them but their name rimes with timber.

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:34 am
by ghostrider
Many 1911 pistols come from the factory with junk mags. Get a Tripp, Wilson, CMC, or MecGar magazine and see if that fixes the problem.
agreed. For 9mm 1911s, I recommend MetalFrom (OEM for Springfield 9mm 1911 mags).

A certain manufacturer of 1911 pistols is notorious for poor mag quality. I'm not naming them but their name rimes with timber.
I'll name them: KIMBER. I had a couple of brand new Kimber Pro mags (45acp) that were terribly unreliable until I replaced the springs.
After that they were fine.

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:42 am
by karder
Each pistol is a little different, but I have found 1911s to be very dependable. I have a Colt defender with 20,000+ rounds and in 20 years I have only 3 FTFs and they were under the exact conditions you described. I replaced the old and badly worn factory magazine with a Wilson Combat magazine and have never had another problem. My Kimber has about 3000 rounds through it and has never had a stoppage even during break in. I purchased new Wilson magazines for that pistol when I first got it and have used them exclusively. A good quality magazine can make a world of difference and 99% of my shooting is with cheap range ammo. I give them a complete strip and cleaning after every range session and no, I don't "bury them in the mud" or "run over them with a truck".

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:21 pm
by ghostrider
, I don't "bury them in the mud" or "run over them with a truck".
that's what glocks are for :-)

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:18 pm
by Astro99
The mag did feel cheaper than other mags I've had before I will get a new mag and see if that helps. Will any 7 round 1911 mag work. I know don't buy cheap mags just never had a 1911 before now. It's stainless steel if that helps.

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:23 pm
by G.A. Heath
Astro99 wrote:The mag did feel cheaper than other mags I've had before I will get a new mag and see if that helps. Will any 7 round 1911 mag work. I know don't buy cheap mags just never had a 1911 before now. It's stainless steel if that helps.
Choosing a 1911 magazine is kinda like choosing a pet, there are some that are almost always good options (Wilson Combat, Tripp, CMC, ect) while others are good for specific people or guns.

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:27 pm
by ghostrider
Will any 7 round 1911 mag work
possibly. I recommend looking at one of these (in no particular order):

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Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:52 pm
by C-dub
george wrote: H&K P7 is a great pistol, but will cease to cycle in as little as 100 rounds of Winchester white box. Quality ammunition runs all day.
I guess I missed it when WWB become low quality. I know it's not good quality defense ammo, but I thought it was pretty good range ammo and haven't had any problems with it.

Re: 1911 break in

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:03 pm
by ghostrider
I guess I missed it when WWB become low quality. I know it's not good quality defense ammo, but I thought it was pretty good range ammo and haven't had any problems with it.
depends on the gun. I wouldn't say its low quality but for some guns it may not be powerful enough to reliably cycle.
If I have to buy 9mm factory (CHL test, for example) I will usually go with Federal American Eagle FMJ.