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Crossfire wrote:Bipolar disorder, and daily medication for a psychiatric disorder are both disqualifiers for the CHL

(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(7), a person is incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person:
(1) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition that causes or is likely to cause substantial impairment in judgment, mood, perception, impulse control, or intellectual ability;
(2) suffers from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subdivision (1) that:
(A) is in remission but is reasonably likely to redevelop at a future time; or
(B) requires continuous medical treatment to avoid redevelopment;
(3) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician, determined by a review board or similar authority, or declared by a court to be incompetent to manage the person's own affairs; or
(4) has entered in a criminal proceeding a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity.
(e) The following constitutes evidence that a person has a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d)(1):
(1) involuntary psychiatric hospitalization;
(2) psychiatric hospitalization;
(3) inpatient or residential substance abuse treatment in the preceding five-year period;
(4) diagnosis in the preceding five-year period by a licensed physician that the person is dependent on alcohol, a controlled substance, or a similar substance; or
(5) diagnosis at any time by a licensed physician that the person suffers or has suffered from a psychiatric disorder or condition consisting of or relating to:
(A) schizophrenia or delusional disorder;
(B) bipolar disorder;
(C) chronic dementia, whether caused by illness, brain defect, or brain injury;

mitchntx wrote:He is diagnosed Bi-polar and takes a daily med cocktail.
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I don't think he is automatically excluded ... I'm sure you guys will correct me ...

But what "hoops" can he expect to jump through in order to obtain a license?

(f) Notwithstanding Subsection (d), a person who has previously been diagnosed as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d) or listed in Subsection (e) is not because of that disorder or condition incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person provides the department with a certificate from a licensed physician whose primary practice is in the field of psychiatry stating that the psychiatric disorder or condition is in remission and is not reasonably likely to develop at a future time.

Jumping Frog wrote:You asked what hoops? Simply find a psychiatrist willing to attest to the below requirements:

(f) Notwithstanding Subsection (d), a person who has previously been diagnosed as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d) or listed in Subsection (e) is not because of that disorder or condition incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person provides the department with a certificate from a licensed physician whose primary practice is in the field of psychiatry stating that the psychiatric disorder or condition is in remission and is not reasonably likely to develop at a future time.

(f) Notwithstanding Subsection (d), a person who has previously been diagnosed as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d) or listed in Subsection (e) is not because of that disorder or condition incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person provides the department with a certificate from a licensed physician whose primary practice is in the field of psychiatry stating that the psychiatric disorder or condition is in remission and is not reasonably likely to develop at a future time.

mitchntx wrote:

(f) Notwithstanding Subsection (d), a person who has previously been diagnosed as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d) or listed in Subsection (e) is not because of that disorder or condition incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person provides the department with a certificate from a licensed physician whose primary practice is in the field of psychiatry stating that the psychiatric disorder or condition is in remission and is not reasonably likely to develop at a future time.

Certificate ... there's that hoop.

Is it simply a letter?
Is there a proper form?
How would the department determine if the "certificate" was a forgery?

I've attempted to purchase a few guns from folks who have inststed on a bill of sale.
A BOS is nothing more than handing a stranger much of your personal information and will serve no purpose is proving ownership or non-ownership.
Its just too easily forged.

Similarly, a letter generated on a Drs letterhead is an easy thing to accomplish.

There jhas to be some sort of legal-eeze to ensure the certificate was legit.

I appreciate all the responses.

WildBill wrote: A visit to the Dr.'s office by the DPS Trooper who is investigating the CHL application could easily detect a forgery.

AEA wrote:Yes.

You cannot beat the system. Even if you were somehow able to circumvent it, what do you think would happen if/when you are required to use your firearm?

That's when they get REALLY thorough and you will find yourself with another charge, or two,........or three.

mitchntx wrote:

WildBill wrote: A visit to the Dr.'s office by the DPS Trooper who is investigating the CHL application could easily detect a forgery.

You really think they would be that thorough?

The Annoyed Man wrote:

mitchntx wrote:

WildBill wrote: A visit to the Dr.'s office by the DPS Trooper who is investigating the CHL application could easily detect a forgery.

You really think they would be that thorough?

Absolutely. I am an American citizen by birth, but born overseas in 1952 in Morocco. I had to go dig up my faded photocopy of my Certificate of Life Birth signed by the U.S. Consul in Casabanca.

YES, they will follow up on that.