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Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:25 pm
by The Annoyed Man
NBC News
Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
By Kasie Hunt, Political Reporter, NBC News
Vice President Joe Biden acknowledged that new gun laws would not "fundamentally alter" the likelihood of another mass shooting, though he insisted there has been a "sea change" in American views on guns in the wake of Newtown.
"Nothing we're going to do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to 1,000 a year from what it is now," Biden told reporters Thursday afternoon after he spent over an hour lunching with Democratic senators at the Capitol.
"But there are things that we can do, demonstrably can do, that have virtually zero impact on your Second Amendment right to own a weapon for both self defense and recreation that can save some lives," he said.
I'm guessing he thinks that outlawing half of my financial investment in firearms will have virtually no impact on my rights.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:43 pm
by mojo84
Like Giffords, something has to be done. Good grief. Let's do something even if it doesn't help.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:47 pm
by Arch Stanton
When exactly did "gun control" become "gun-safety"? I guess that's more palatable for a lot of people.
Still, that was before Newtown -- and the vice president insisted Thursday that the tragedy there changed the public's attitudes toward gun-safety legislation, a reality that would make new firearms regulations possible.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:05 pm
by K.Mooneyham
a "sea change" in American views on guns in the wake of Newtown
Yeah, a sea change in that a lot more people understand what the gun-grabbers are up to and what their real goal is...how many new members does the NRA have in the last month or so?
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:15 pm
by 77346
this mentality of "something needs to be done, anything... please for the children" is quite dangerous... Doing the wrong thing just because something needs to be done is quite moronic.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:23 pm
by BigGuy
AndyC wrote:Me, for one ;)
Make that 2
Not to mention turning a moderate, MSNBC watching Reagan Democrat into a FOX watching Republican supporter.
They got their way In 1994, and it cost them the mid terms. I think they're at risk of losing the 2014 mid terms WITHOUT getting their way this time.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:25 pm
by thenick_ttu
BigGuy wrote:AndyC wrote:Me, for one ;)
Make that 2
Make that 4 (me and wife)
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:32 pm
by TexasCajun
He's correct. There has been a 'sea change' in American thinking. NRA membership has spiked. Demand for firearms is way up. People are buying ammo faster than they can make it. CHL classes are mostly booked solid through the next several months. Etc. I'm sure some folks went out & bought a new AR or a few boxes of ammo after the election. But what we're seeing right now isn't just an up-tick in those of us who could be considered avid hobbyists. This is a full-on flood of people wanting firearms & such. Obama, Biden & Feinstein should get a big ol thank you note from the manufacturers because they've done wonders for the firearms industry.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:03 pm
by SewTexas
so it's not going to end shootings....but it's going to save lives....
did I read that right??
my brain hurts...oh, right it was Biden, that's normal
(I'm going to go fix dinner now, before I get in trouble
)
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:39 pm
by OldCurlyWolf
mojo84 wrote:Like Giffords, something has to be done. Good grief. Let's do something even if it doesn't help.
I sincerely hope you are just spouting sarcasm.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:11 pm
by chasfm11
77346 wrote:this mentality of "something needs to be done, anything... please for the children" is quite dangerous... Doing the wrong thing just because something needs to be done is quite moronic.
Let's see... Biden and moronic in the same sentence.....works for me.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:24 pm
by mojo84
OldCurlyWolf wrote:mojo84 wrote:Like Giffords, something has to be done. Good grief. Let's do something even if it doesn't help.
I sincerely hope you are just spouting sarcasm.
I sincerely hope you are just spouting something in an attempt to be funny. I can't imagine how I could have made the sarcasm any more obvious. Well, I guess I could have put (NOTE: THIS IS SARCASM).
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:31 pm
by QMCS
mojo84 wrote:Like Giffords, something has to be done. Good grief. Let's do something even if it doesn't help.
A&h the old bridge to nowhere. Gotta build it because we have to.
Re: Biden: New gun controls likely won't end shootings
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:50 pm
by jmra
Biden is an idiot.