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Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:19 pm
by VMI77
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... RDS=bovard
Liberalism means embracing your psychopathology.
If a background check discloses a criminal offense, the EEOC expects a company to do an intricate "individualized assessment" that will somehow prove that it has a "business necessity" not to hire the ex-offender (or that his offense disqualifies him for a specific job). Former EEOC General Counsel Donald Livingston, in testimony in December to the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, warned that employers could be considered guilty of "race discrimination if they choose law abiding applicants over applicants with criminal convictions" unless they conduct a comprehensive analysis of the ex-offender's recent life history.
It is difficult to overstate the EEOC's zealotry on this issue. The agency is demanding that one of Mr. Livingston's clients—the Freeman Companies, a convention and corporate events planner—pay compensation to rejected job applicants who lied about their criminal records.
The biggest bombshell in the new guidelines is that businesses complying with state or local laws that require employee background checks can still be targeted for EEOC lawsuits. This is a key issue in a case the EEOC commenced in 2010 against G4S Secure Solutions after the company refused to hire a twice-convicted Pennsylvania thief as a security guard.
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:38 pm
by Andrew
The EEOCs position is so laughable, the WSJ piece almost reads as satire. What's next, EEOC imposed quotas for TSA screeners? After all G4S is the former Wackenhut that provided security at many U.S. airports.
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:52 pm
by sjfcontrol
The world has gone insane. Or...
To quote a former president of the NRA... "It's a madhouse! A madhouse!"
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:37 pm
by rm9792
When did felony status become a race???
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:08 am
by Jumping Frog
rm9792 wrote:When did felony status become a race???
The feds position is African-Americans are convicted of felonies at a far higher rate than Caucasians, so if a company will not hire felons they will reject a higher percentage of African-Americans.
Of course, if African-Americans have a greater probability of being convicted felons, then that means they cannot pass the NICS check to buy a firearm. Thus, by their logic, we should also eliminate Form 4473's and NICS checks because they are "racist".

Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:26 am
by mr surveyor
Jumping Frog wrote:rm9792 wrote:When did felony status become a race???
The feds position is African-Americans are convicted of felonies at a far higher rate than Caucasians, so if a company will not hire felons they will reject a higher percentage of African-Americans.
Of course, if African-Americans have a greater probability of being convicted felons, then that means they cannot pass the NICS check to buy a firearm. Thus, by their logic, we should also eliminate Form 4473's and NICS checks because they are "racist".

now, that's good logic!
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:41 am
by RX8er
mr surveyor wrote:Jumping Frog wrote:rm9792 wrote:When did felony status become a race???
The feds position is African-Americans are convicted of felonies at a far higher rate than Caucasians, so if a company will not hire felons they will reject a higher percentage of African-Americans.
Of course, if African-Americans have a greater probability of being convicted felons, then that means they cannot pass the NICS check to buy a firearm. Thus, by their logic, we should also eliminate Form 4473's and NICS checks because they are "racist".

now, that's good logic!
Jumping Frog has been spending time on at
http://liberallogic101.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "Helping those of us with brains understand how Liberal Logic works"
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:02 am
by Jumping Frog
RX8er wrote:Jumping Frog has been spending time on at
http://liberallogic101.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "Helping those of us with brains understand how Liberal Logic works"
Never heard of the website.
But I have been studying the enemy for decades.
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:36 am
by RPBrown
Tere is no such thing as liberal logic. There is no logic in anything they do.
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:26 pm
by ELB
And of course the real kicker to the EEOC's "regulation" is that it will not protect employers from lawsuits by people injured, killed, or otherwise victimized by one of those employee-felons - the fact that the company hired them knowing about their convictions will count against them at lawsuit time.
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:38 am
by bagman45
OK, so you all remember learning about the "Socratic method" and logic in school. Let's stretch it a bit and apply it to the liberal mindset: All cats die; Socrates is dead; therefore, Socrates was a cat......

Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:58 am
by sjfcontrol
bagman45 wrote:OK, so you all remember learning about the "Socratic method" and logic in school. Let's stretch it a bit and apply it to the liberal mindset:
All cats die; Socrates is dead; therefore, Socrates was a cat......

Actually, the jury is still out on Schrodinger's.

Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:18 am
by RottenApple
sjfcontrol wrote:Actually, the jury is still out on Schrodinger's.


Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:15 pm
by bagman45
Re: Felons: The new protected class for Obama's EEOC
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:42 pm
by smtimelevi
Jumping Frog wrote:rm9792 wrote:When did felony status become a race???
The feds position is African-Americans are convicted of felonies at a far higher rate than Caucasians, so if a company will not hire felons they will reject a higher percentage of African-Americans.
Of course, if African-Americans have a greater probability of being convicted felons, then that means they cannot pass the NICS check to buy a firearm. Thus, by their logic, we should also eliminate Form 4473's and NICS checks because they are "racist".

4473 does specificly ask for race...