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"You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African- American community at least, there's a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it's important to recognize that the African- American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that -- that doesn't go away," he said.

Mmmkay...........

He recalled his own experiences before becoming a nationally-recognized politician, noting, “There are very few African- American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off.”

I'm a blue eyed white guy and I can honestly say that I have never felt this way just because the of the color of a persons skin, demeanor and attitude would be another thing. I've actually kept an eye out on more white guys that were acting like they may be up to no good. Could be because I grew up in such a WASP town and only know one mulatto person who was adopted by white parents until I moved further out in the country for high school and then had several black friends. Or could be that race really doesn't matter to the average white person and this guys is just baiting. Maybe I'm totally off base and a non-white member could chime in. If you're black have you ever experienced things like this?

None other than Jesse Jackson said, according to the NY Times:

Jesse Jackson, as quoted in the NY Times on12/12/93, by Times columnist Bob Herbert ( who is also black):

“Jesse Jackson is travelling the country with a tough anti-crime message that he is delivering to inner city youngsters. In Chicago, he said:

‘There is nothing more painful to me at this stage of my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

http://www.redstate.com/gawken/2012/03/ ... l-sort-of/

From NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/12/opini ... crime.html

Obama just does not get it - he also raised the question of whether Martin himself, if he had been armed and of age, "could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk" and shot Zimmerman if he felt threatened when being followed. If Obama thinks that being followed, therefore 'threatened' somehow, and shooting whoever was following is justifiable, then his world view is more skewed than I thought.

NObama really is irking me on this one. He is fueling the fire with his what if comments. Nobama should release the NSA recording of the phone conversation Trayvon had since we know they are recording all phone calls.

Once again he is crossing the line! Our system has 3 branches for a reason, so no one can become too powerful. That S.O.B. is no different than Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all those other idiots! Trying to ride the wave to gain any popularity possible.

texanjoker wrote:NObama really is irking me on this one. He is fueling the fire with his what if comments. Nobama should release the NSA recording of the phone conversation Trayvon had since we know they are recording all phone calls.

Not directed to you, or anyone else in particular, but I have tried and tried to tell people how bad this POTUS really is. In fact, I tried to tell people since before he was elected the first time. Whatever they say about him, like "he's a uniter", is just the opposite of who he really is and what he does. Its not because he is black, but because he is a radical leftist. So, I certainly do feel your pain on this one.

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"You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African- American community at least, there's a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it's important to recognize that the African- American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that -- that doesn't go away," he said.

Mmmkay...........

He recalled his own experiences before becoming a nationally-recognized politician, noting, “There are very few African- American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off.”

I'm a blue eyed white guy and I can honestly say that I have never felt this way just because the of the color of a persons skin, demeanor and attitude would be another thing. I've actually kept an eye out on more white guys that were acting like they may be up to no good. Could be because I grew up in such a WASP town and only know one mulatto person who was adopted by white parents until I moved further out in the country for high school and then had several black friends. Or could be that race really doesn't matter to the average white person and this guys is just baiting. Maybe I'm totally off base and a non-white member could chime in. If you're black have you ever experienced things like this?

A fellow engineer and I were in Staten Island for a project. The young lady in question had never left the State of Illinois in her entire life before the trip. As we left Newark airport, with me driving, and drove south on route 1 to our hotel in Elizabeth, SHE was the one who locked the doors. BTW, she is blacker than bambam's daddy.

I thought Barney Rubble was white.

Maybe the president was saying in his teens he did drugs, robbed houses, and jumped people? Now that I might believe. As he has no problem stealing our $$ and beating up those who do not agree with him politically by the long arm of the IRS.

Isn't it a delight that our illustrious leader is so afflicted with cognitive dissonance that he can't help but fall back time and time again on his talking points -- guns are evil, corporations are evil, Christians are evil, the US is evil, people not of color are evil, government is here to help and save us all, etc... I guess its easier to stick to the script. You must admit that he and his machine have taken Rahm's advice at every opportunity. If I wasn't convinced of the evil intent behind it all, I would have to either laugh or cry...

AndyC wrote:

He recalled his own experiences before becoming a nationally-recognized politician, noting, “There are very few African- American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off.”

Um... there are very few MEN who haven't had that experience!

I know I have a face that could stop a clock - although admittedly perhaps not quite as quickly as PawPaw's when he pulls that famous expression of his - but this dork needs to realize that women are wary of ALL MEN - period.

As reluctant as I am to bring race into the issue, he opened the door - so let's go there.

After researching the FBI numbers for "Suicide of a Superpower," this writer concluded: "An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

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I'm not defending Mr. Obama, but statistics like those posted leave out some things that need to be considered.
When whites are choosing a victim for their criminal activity do they choose blacks less often or could it be that there are 8 times fewer blacks to choose from. When blacks are choosing their crime victims do they purposely target whites or are there just 8 times more potential white victims then black in the U.S.?

The FBI UCR doesn't break out rape stats by race. So you need to look at other numbers.The rape stats Buchanan used are from the DOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics, and they are just bad. The info is incomplete and oft times incorrectly recorded. Some years there are thousands of white on black rapes enumerated then none for 3 to 5 years. Even David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the KKK and erstwhile candidate for national office from Louisiana, has urged white supremacist groups not to use them in their agitprop due to the known problems. Pat apparently isn't on his mailing list.

Murder statistics, which is broken down by race shows that blacks kill blacks and whites kill whites, almost exclusively. Why? Murder is most often a crime of passion, you must know your victim to be passionate enough to kill them. Yes, there are exceptions during robbery, mugging, rapes, burglary. The criminal wasn't there to murder though, he was there to commit another crime and lost control of the situation or himself. This is why cases like Zimmerman - Martin are sensationalized, they are exceptional, and the over 200 murders in Chicago so far this year aren't.

Don't let the race baiters on either side sway you. I judge men on the content of their character, not the color of their skin, paraphrasing MLK Jr.

Where was the current POTUS thirty-five years ago...and what was his name then?

Oldgringo wrote:Where was the current POTUS thirty-five years ago...and what was his name then?

He was a senior in high school at Punahou School, a private college preparatory school in Hawaii.

AndyC wrote:

He recalled his own experiences before becoming a nationally-recognized politician, noting, “There are very few African- American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off.”

Um... there are very few MEN who haven't had that experience!

I know I have a face that could stop a clock - although admittedly perhaps not quite as quickly as PawPaw's when he pulls that famous expression of his - but this dork needs to realize that women are wary of ALL MEN - period.

As reluctant as I am to bring race into the issue, he opened the door - so let's go there.

After researching the FBI numbers for "Suicide of a Superpower," this writer concluded: "An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

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For me a lot of this discussion misses the point. Please indulge me a tangent to make it.

I ride my bike 12 miles 3 times per week in public parks and a designated bike path for cardio exercise. I've been bitten by dogs while doing it. Seldom does a week pass when I'm not chased by dogs. As a result of my experiences, I profile dogs.

1. Large dogs get more scrutiny than small dogs. With the exception of a blue healer that can outrun the fastest that I can make my bike go, if I see a small or medium sized dog in enough time, it cannot catch me. I pay more attention where there is more risk to me.
2. Young dogs are more aggressive than older ones. I've been riding 7 years and have yet to have an older dog chase me, let alone confront me. So if the distance is closing between a dog and I, I assess its age and act accordingly. Most of the time, it is the difference between condition yellow and condition orange, older versus younger regarding my actions.

Among people, I do much the same thing. Someone who is bigger than I am is going to get greater scrutiny. Why? Because they don't know that I have a size equalizer on my hip. Before I had a CHL, I was accosted several times on public streets. The perps were always big guys. Youth will always get a lot more of my attention. Mostly, that is because far too many of them are reckless and inconsiderate. On my bike, older people always seem to want to stay out of my way while younger people seem to dismiss my presence to the point of moving directly into my path when other options where available to them.

In 7 years of riding, I've come off the bike exactly once. I mis-judged a lady walking her small dog and talking on a cell phone. She was paying no attention and she and the dog suddenly wondered completely off the pavement onto the surrounding area where I had gone to avoid them. I've updated my profiling to include anyone who is talking on a cell phone as a result of that incident.

My point is that I don't need statistics to confirm my threat assessments. I, too, have my own set of experiences. Youth will always get more scrutiny and caution. I may be surprised some day when granny sticks a gun in my face but I'll accept the risk of not watching her like a hawk as I would ANY teenaged male.

Animals do this all the time. I can walk right up to the rabbit in our back yard. I can get to within 5 feet of it. It will never let my dog that close. As soon as the rabbit sees my dog, it bolts. I'm not a threat - my dog is. It seems so simple, so natural and, like so many other things in our world today, I'm told that I'm a bad person if I don't ignore my instincts. I'm not going to. It is a survival skill.