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Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:40 pm
by Zoti
I am flying to Denver next week and plan to drive back from Colorado Springs to Allen, TX. On the way I will pass through New Mexico. I have a Texas CHL and I know Colorado and New Mexico honor the TX CHL.
I have been reading a bit about Denver carry laws and although I think I am safe I was wondering if anyone can add any insights from their knowledge / experience.
I have the flying part covered with a great case to carry my gun in and I am aware of all regulations and laws regarding that.
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:37 pm
by RottenApple
Ignore gun busters. Leave if asked. No schools (duh - lol). If building has security AND electronically screen for weapons, you can't carry.
I've never had any problems anywhere in CO.
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:53 pm
by ajwakeboarder
Make sure your carry weapon can't hold more than 15 rounds.
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:05 pm
by Zoti
I'll be carrying my Shield. It has 8 rounds so I'm good.
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:46 pm
by rdcrags
I know you didn't ask, but although Colorado is an open carry state, Denver proper will not allow O.C. due to a special deal they made with the legislature. The cities abutting Denver proper do not care.
If what I wrote has changed recently, someone please inform me.
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:27 pm
by tommyg
Coming back thru New Mex they have a law that you can only carry one gun
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:58 am
by jmra
Zoti wrote:I'll be carrying my Shield. It has 8 rounds so I'm good.
Does the magazine have a removable baseplate? Seems like this was one of the issues with the recent law changes.
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:51 pm
by Zoti
Every modern gun magazine has a removable base plate. It's how they assemble them together.
What issue does the law has with removable base plates?
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:58 pm
by Zoti
Seems like they tried to ban all magazines with removable base plates but backed out of it. As I stated before, it's stupid since almost all hand gun magazines manufactured today have a removable base plate as part of their design.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23644017/c ... irst-round
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:59 pm
by jsk
Ignore gun busters. Leave if asked.
I know this is the interpretation at HandgunLaw.us, but the lawyers behind the "Legal Heat" app disagree pretty strongly. CCW app also recommends against carrying where posted. At best I'd say this is a somewhat gray area, so folks might want to consider whether they want to risk "taking the ride" to beat the rap.
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:02 pm
by RottenApple
Zoti wrote:Every modern gun magazine has a removable base plate. It's how they assemble them together.
What issue does the law has with removable base plates?
That's not quite accurate. For example, Kimber standard mags have fixed base plates. And that's just one modern manufacturer.
The issue is that the new 15 round mag ban in CO also bans mags that can be "readily converted" to carry more than 15 rounds. But "readily converted" hasn't been defined in the law, so it's open to interpretation. And some authorities have speculated that having a removable base plate makes a mag "readily converted".
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:06 pm
by RottenApple
jsk wrote:Ignore gun busters. Leave if asked.
I know this is the interpretation at HandgunLaw.us, but the lawyers behind the "Legal Heat" app disagree pretty strongly. CCW app also recommends against carrying where posted. At best I'd say this is a somewhat gray area, so folks might want to consider whether they want to risk "taking the ride" to beat the rap.
Handgunlaw.us, "Legal Heat" & CCW app lawyers aside, the
law is quite clear. It's not a gray area at all. No sign has the force of law in CO.
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:07 pm
by Zoti
RottenApple wrote:Zoti wrote:Every modern gun magazine has a removable base plate. It's how they assemble them together.
What issue does the law has with removable base plates?
That's not quite accurate. For example, Kimber standard mags have fixed base plates. And that's just one modern manufacturer.
The issue is that the new 15 round mag ban in CO also bans mags that can be "readily converted" to carry more than 15 rounds. But "readily converted" hasn't been defined in the law, so it's open to interpretation. And some authorities have speculated that having a removable base plate makes a mag "readily converted".
I should have said "almost every modern gun magazine".
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:12 pm
by Zoti
Zoti wrote:RottenApple wrote:Zoti wrote:Every modern gun magazine has a removable base plate. It's how they assemble them together.
What issue does the law has with removable base plates?
That's not quite accurate. For example, Kimber standard mags have fixed base plates. And that's just one modern manufacturer.
The issue is that the new 15 round mag ban in CO also bans mags that can be "readily converted" to carry more than 15 rounds. But "readily converted" hasn't been defined in the law, so it's open to interpretation. And some authorities have speculated that having a removable base plate makes a mag "readily converted".
I should have said "almost every modern gun magazine".
It doesn't matter, anyways.
http://www.9news.com/rss/article/336703 ... -limit-law
Re: Flying to Denver. Driving back with CHL.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:33 pm
by jmra
Zoti wrote:Zoti wrote:RottenApple wrote:Zoti wrote:Every modern gun magazine has a removable base plate. It's how they assemble them together.
What issue does the law has with removable base plates?
That's not quite accurate. For example, Kimber standard mags have fixed base plates. And that's just one modern manufacturer.
The issue is that the new 15 round mag ban in CO also bans mags that can be "readily converted" to carry more than 15 rounds. But "readily converted" hasn't been defined in the law, so it's open to interpretation. And some authorities have speculated that having a removable base plate makes a mag "readily converted".
I should have said "almost every modern gun magazine".
It doesn't matter, anyways.
http://www.9news.com/rss/article/336703 ... -limit-law
Make it a quick trip.
"David Kopel, the lawyer suing the state over HB-1224, says the technical guidance does not change the suit because the guidance can always be changed..."