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Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:05 pm
by lrpettit
If a Texas CHL holder with his weapon in the closed center console is pulled over for a speeding violation by a local city officer in OK (US highway going through small town that's a speed trap), is the driver/CHL holder required preemptively to notify the officer that he is a TX CHL holder with a weapon in the center console? If not, would you do it anyway?
If the officer asks about weapons, are you required to disclose? I would assume lying to an officer is usually a bad idea.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:54 pm
by LabRat
Consult website "handgunlaw.us"
Must inform officer upon initial contact = Yes.
Lying to cops...any situation is worse than before.
You might choose not to answer. Your choice.
Hope this helps.
LabRat
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:21 pm
by lrpettit
That web site makes it pretty clear. Thanks for providing the link.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:34 pm
by cb1000rider
I assume that I have to notify. Too much to keep up with in state laws on cross country.
I just look at the reciprocity map - if I'm good, then I can go.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:34 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
lrpettit wrote:That web site makes it pretty clear. Thanks for providing the link.
Please post the answer here to save time for others.
Thanks,
Chas.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:40 pm
by lrpettit
handgunlaw.us makes it pretty clear that you need to inform the officer at the first opportunity in OK. If I read it properly, it is a misdemeanor with a $100 fine if you don't.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:37 pm
by bizarrenormality
Charles L. Cotton wrote:lrpettit wrote:That web site makes it pretty clear. Thanks for providing the link.
Please post the answer here to save time for others.
Thanks,
Chas.
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Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:17 pm
by RoyGBiv
No teflon coated rounds... Illegal in OK
§21-1289.19. Restricted Bullet and Body Armor Defined.
As used in Sections 1289.20 through 1289.22 of this title and Section 2 of this act:
1. "Restricted bullet" means a round or elongated missile with a core of less than sixty percent (60%)
lead and having a fluorocarbon coating, which is designed to travel at a high velocity and is capable of
penetrating body armor;
and... specifically re: the original post.
21 § 1290.8. Possession of License Required-Notification to Police of Gun
C.It shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact that the person is in actual
possession of a concealed or unconcealed handgun pursuant to the authority of the Oklahoma Self-
Defense Act when the person comes into contact with any law enforcement officer of this state or its political
subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer during the course of any arrest, detainment, or routine
traffic stop. Said identification to the law enforcement officer shall be made at the first opportunity. No
person shall be required to identify himself or herself as a handgun licensee when no handgun is in the
possession of the person or in any vehicle in which the person is driving or is a passenger. Any violation of
the provisions of this subsection shall, upon conviction, be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not
exceeding-One Hundred Dollars ($100.00).
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:43 pm
by TrackinPat
I'm having a hard time grasping how this encounter should go down, can someone please write a short scenario of how you would tell them in the beginning of a traffic stop?
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:38 am
by jmra
TrackinPat wrote:I'm having a hard time grasping how this encounter should go down, can someone please write a short scenario of how you would tell them in the beginning of a traffic stop?
Officer: May I see your blah blah blah
Driver: Yes. And here is my CHL. I am carrying a blah blah located blah blah.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:22 am
by RoyGBiv
TrackinPat wrote:I'm having a hard time grasping how this encounter should go down, can someone please write a short scenario of how you would tell them in the beginning of a traffic stop?
1. Pull over in a safe spot.
2. Roll down windows (both sides), turn on dome light, both hands on top of steering wheel, hands empty.
3. Allow officer time to say hello. They will likely say something similar to "My name is officer Smith, do you know why I stopped you today?"
4. To which your reply should be.... "Officer Smith, I need to let you know that I have a carry permit and I am carrying a weapon today, let me know how you would like to proceed".
Then follow directions.
It really is that easy... In my limited experience.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:26 am
by TrackinPat
RoyGBiv wrote:TrackinPat wrote:I'm having a hard time grasping how this encounter should go down, can someone please write a short scenario of how you would tell them in the beginning of a traffic stop?
1. Pull over in a safe spot.
2. Roll down windows (both sides), turn on dome light, both hands on top of steering wheel, hands empty.
3. Allow officer time to say hello. They will likely say something similar to "My name is officer Smith, do you know why I stopped you today?"
4. To which your reply should be.... "Officer Smith, I need to let you know that I have a carry permit and I am carrying a weapon today, let me know how you would like to proceed".
Then follow directions.
It really is that easy... In my limited experience.
and in your limited experience with this encounter, how did said officer react?
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:06 pm
by ddstuder
TrackinPat wrote:RoyGBiv wrote:TrackinPat wrote:I'm having a hard time grasping how this encounter should go down, can someone please write a short scenario of how you would tell them in the beginning of a traffic stop?
1. Pull over in a safe spot.
2. Roll down windows (both sides), turn on dome light, both hands on top of steering wheel, hands empty.
3. Allow officer time to say hello. They will likely say something similar to "My name is officer Smith, do you know why I stopped you today?"
4. To which your reply should be.... "Officer Smith, I need to let you know that I have a carry permit and I am carrying a weapon today, let me know how you would like to proceed".
Then follow directions.
It really is that easy... In my limited experience.
and in your limited experience with this encounter, how did said officer react?
I've had two traffic stops since my CHL. Both times proceeded just as described above. Both times received a "Thank You" from the officer.
One was a ticket, 78 in 65 on 35 in Lewisville, other time was a warning for no signal on turn.
Was not disarmed either time.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:28 pm
by karlac
Excellent advice, also might consider leaving out the word "weapon" so that one word is not the only one heard in the traffic noise, particularly if he has a rookie listening in on the passenger side. Just as practice with your firearm is important, not a bad idea to rehearse that phrase until it becomes automatic also.
Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:56 pm
by bizarrenormality
It doesn't say notification must be oral so handing over both licenses should count as written notice.