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Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:13 pm
by quad_sevens
Hello,

Is there a time limit that you have to renew your CHL after it has expired? I don't know if my search capabilities are lacking but I have not been able to find this. Thanks!

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:17 pm
by JR's 12 Valve
1 year after expiration date.

If you don't renew it within the year, you have to take the class again.

I believe you can find a more detailed answer on the DPS CHL website under the laws/regulations tab.

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:19 pm
by quad_sevens
Thank you!
Guess I will be taking another class. DOH!! :banghead:

Completely my fault.

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:15 pm
by jbarn
quad_sevens wrote:Thank you!
Guess I will be taking another class. DOH!! :banghead:

Completely my fault.
At least it's only 4 hours plus shooting now. ;)

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:24 pm
by Keith B
jbarn wrote: At least it's only 4 hours plus shooting now. ;)
4-6 hours plus range qualification.

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:12 pm
by quad_sevens
Much better than the original full day sessions and Frisco Gun Club is having a winter sale for the CHL class.. $50 can't beat that! :thumbs2:

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:16 pm
by MechAg94
JR's 12 Valve wrote:1 year after expiration date.

If you don't renew it within the year, you have to take the class again.

I believe you can find a more detailed answer on the DPS CHL website under the laws/regulations tab.
Unless it changed, this is the rule. I forgot to take the class until near my birthday last time and looked it up. Luckily, the renewed license came in fast and I didn't go more than a few weeks without it.

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:14 pm
by Jumping Frog
The same legal changes that eliminated training requirements for renewal also changed when you must renew.

Now, you must apply for renewal BEFORE YOUR CURRENT LICENSE EXPIRES. If you do not apply before expiration, you must go through the process as a new applicant.

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:23 pm
by jbarn
Keith B wrote:
jbarn wrote: At least it's only 4 hours plus shooting now. ;)
4-6 hours plus range qualification.

Yes, Keith. No less than 4 nor more than 6 hours. testing, paperwork and range qualification does not count towards the hours.

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:24 pm
by jbarn
Jumping Frog wrote:The same legal changes that eliminated training requirements for renewal also changed when you must renew.

Now, you must apply for renewal BEFORE YOUR CURRENT LICENSE EXPIRES. If you do not apply before expiration, you must go through the process as a new applicant.

That is not accurate. There is still a 1 year grace period. No carry on an expired license, but can renew up to one year after expiration. ;-) :tiphat:


Look at the very first one.
http://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/CHL/Legal/ ... lation.htm

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:54 pm
by Hector
jbarn wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:The same legal changes that eliminated training requirements for renewal also changed when you must renew.

Now, you must apply for renewal BEFORE YOUR CURRENT LICENSE EXPIRES. If you do not apply before expiration, you must go through the process as a new applicant.

That is not accurate. There is still a 1 year grace period.
I don't see that in the law. http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 00048F.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It looks like the legislature doesn't think so either. http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... &Bill=HB48" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The bill requires the license holder to submit the required renewal materials on or before the date the license expires
It looks like Jumping Frog is right.

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:44 pm
by Jumping Frog
Hector wrote:It looks like Jumping Frog is right.
I know I am right. I remember the discussions on this topic last spring during the legislative session. There were also all the people with recently expired licenses discussing the need to find training and renew before the September 1st effective date.
jbarn wrote:That is not accurate. There is still a 1 year grace period.
The DPS is mistaken. Look at the enrolled bill:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 00048F.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:37 pm
by jmra
Jumping Frog wrote:
Hector wrote:It looks like Jumping Frog is right.
I know I am right. I remember the discussions on this topic last spring during the legislative session. There were also all the people with recently expired licenses discussing the need to find training and renew before the September 1st effective date.
jbarn wrote:That is not accurate. There is still a 1 year grace period.
The DPS is mistaken. Look at the enrolled bill:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 00048F.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
JF is correct about the Bill, but it appears that DPS at least for the short term has taken it upon themselves to allow a grace period. This may be due to the fact that DPS is have trouble meeting their own legally mandated deadlines.

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:01 am
by Jumping Frog
jmra wrote:... it appears that DPS at least for the short term has taken it upon themselves to allow a grace period. This may be due to the fact that DPS is have trouble meeting their own legally mandated deadlines.
Maybe they are taking a page from the Obama Playbook and altering legal deadlines to suit their own convenience. After all, Obama doesn't care what the statutorily-mandated deadlines are, so why should any other government agency conform to the law

Re: Can you renew if your CHL expired over a year ago?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:45 am
by Keith B
DPS is still honoring the one year grace period. I am sure they have checked with their legal department to make sure their interpretation is correct.