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Re: Vancouver man’s gun shooting defense: Biden

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:40 pm
by EEllis
sbrawley wrote:http://koin.com/2013/07/17/vancouver-ma ... n-defense/
Outside the courtroom Wednesday, Barton cited the vice president in defense of his actions.

“I did what Joe Biden told me to do,” Barton told KOIN. “I went outside and fired my shotgun in the air.”

Barton was referring to a question and answer session the vice president had in February.

“If you want to protect yourself, get a double-barreled shotgun,” Biden said at the time.

“I said ‘Jill, if there’s ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here … put that double-barreled shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house,’” Biden added.
First off, I am amazed that the prosecution bought this as a defense. Would he have gotten off so easy if someone was wounded for his negligence? :bigmouth

Second, I guess Biden doesn't know about the law of gravity; what goes up must come down, :rules: and where it lands no one knows :leaving

Couple of things. First he didn't get off anything since he hasn't had a trial yet and he is pleading not guilty. The prosecution doesn't get to pick his defense so what they think about it matters little. If you think he is being undercharged then so be it but it's the charge I would expect. As to the whole gravity issue I'm sorry but I've never heard of anyone being hurt buy shotgun pellets. If fired at a high angle the pellets will fall to earth with a terminal velocity of between 200 to 300 fps. Most BB guns shoot faster than that. Unless the guy has shooting at a relatively low angle and or was shooting slugs or specialty ammo there isn't any real risk besides someone looking up and getting hit in the eye.

Re: Vancouver man’s gun shooting defense: Biden

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:47 am
by tomdavis
The part about Biden advice that I found the most idiotic was that you should go outside (expose yourself to the bad guy) and unload your best defense. Surely plenty has been said on this forum about Biden's advice so if a Mod wants to delete this that's ok.

Re: Vancouver man’s gun shooting defense: Biden

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:24 am
by jmra
EEllis wrote:I've never heard of anyone being hurt buy shotgun pellets.
:iagree:
But, old ladies with tin roofs get really mad when it rains shotgun pellets. Don't ask me how I know.

Re: Vancouver man’s gun shooting defense: Biden

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:27 am
by rbwhatever1
:shock:

Re: Vancouver man’s gun shooting defense: Biden

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:57 pm
by EEllis
jmra wrote:
EEllis wrote:I've never heard of anyone being hurt buy shotgun pellets.
:iagree:
But, old ladies with tin roofs get really mad when it rains shotgun pellets. Don't ask me how I know.
Hey I wasn't happy when I was sitting in my car one night and it started raining pellets on me but that's a different story.

Re: Vancouver man’s gun shooting defense: Biden

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:38 pm
by jmra
rbwhatever1 wrote::shock:
I was 16 yo and it wasn't my fault the birds flew over her house. :cool: