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Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:00 am
by philip964
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israel-ease-gu ... ck-1475394" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Don't know much about Israel gun laws, but seems like they never should have been tightened. Seems like their relaxation only gets them to about Washington DC.
The world needs to trust its honest citizens.
Re: Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:03 am
by Charles L. Cotton
I don't know when it happened, but Israel went from every Israeli (and American) citizen being able to own and carry all manner of firearms to only a select few. I was stunned when I first learned of the change in the law. How on earth did Israel get so far off track?
Chas.
Re: Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:35 am
by ELB
"[Israeli Internal Security Minister Yitzhak] Aharonovich added that the relaxed restrictions would not apply to the general public but to anyone who already owns a licence to carry a gun, such as private security guards and off-duty army officers."
Not exactly "constitutional carry."
Sounds like most Israelis will still be behind most Americans, but their military officers will be somewhat 'officially' ahead.
Re: Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:30 pm
by philip964
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I don't know when it happened, but Israel went from every Israeli (and American) citizen being able to own and carry all manner of firearms to only a select few. I was stunned when I first learned of the change in the law. How on earth did Israel get so far off track?
Chas.
That's what I remembered. Every Isralie was former military and were all very proficient with handguns.
A real shame if they have lost those rights.
Re: Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:05 pm
by mojo84
I was under the impression they were pretty free when it came to gun rights. I remember seeing a picture of a lady with a rifle watching school kids play. That have me the impression guns were pretty widely accepted.
Re: Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:31 pm
by WhoDat
Don't know a whole lot about their gun laws. And I've only been there a couple times, for work. But I think concealed carry is a bit more complicated, over there, than here.
Fact is, it is a segregated society. There's a large portion of the population that most jewish Israelis would not want to see carrying weapons. It would be provocative to come out and say that Jewish citizens could carry, while Arab Israelis cannot. And, as much as I'm in favor of CHL, over here, my gut tells me it wouldn't be as good of a thing over there. So a "relaxation" like this skirts that, by putting more guns in the hands of a "trusted" populace (eg. private security guards and off-duty army officers). But I don't think we'll see the average Jewish or Arab Israeli enjoying "shall-issue", walking armed around shopping malls together, any time soon. Again, I could be wrong?
Re: Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:17 pm
by ELB
On Israeli gun laws.
http://www.thebangswitch.com/visiting-a ... -gun-shop/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/0 ... all-issue/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-israel- ... z3JSOjACgF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“In Israel it is not a right to bear arms, but a privilege,” said Rabani, standing in front of a case of 9mm. handguns.
And in recent years the privilege has been extended to fewer citizens.
The trend began in 1992 with a Knesset committee, but took root in 1995 when prime minister Yitzhak Rabin was gunned down and killed by an assassin, Yigal Amir, who used a legal, properly licensed firearm. “After the murder, they inserted a new article whereby if the grounds for issuing a weapon have changed” — if, say, the person has moved– “then the license is canceled,” Yaakov Amit, the head of the Ministry of Public Safety’s Firearms Licensing Department, told Army Radio on Sunday. (It is not clear whether Amir would have been stripped of his license under the more stringent regulations.)
Today, Amit said, there are 170,000 Israeli citizens licensed to carry a weapon, a mere 2.5 percent of the population. Of these, 40,000 are security guards who work in supermarkets, malls and schools.
Re: Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:53 pm
by CoffeeNut
mojo84 wrote:I was under the impression they were pretty free when it came to gun rights. I remember seeing a picture of a lady with a rifle watching school kids play. That have me the impression guns were pretty widely accepted.
That was a picture of a school teacher/security guard. They gave permission for that after a school shooting over there. Any other pictures you see of women/men in casual clothes and an M4 are all military.
Re: Israel to relax gun restrictions after attack
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:03 pm
by mojo84
OK. I knew I had seen it but couldn't remember the circumstance. Thanks