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Suspect raises hands, then shoots

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:39 am
by Daisy Cutter
Hedwig Village police traffic stop.

Should be seen by all of those low-information protesters around the country.

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Re: Suspect raises hands, then shoots

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:41 am
by jayinsat
One comment vaguely related: after watching the video I can truly understand the importance of practicing my reload skills. This officer was having a very difficult time reloading his weapon. Could have been deadly for him if bullets were still coming back at him. Practicing reloads is an important part of training, not just for competition shooting but for life!

Re: Suspect raises hands, then shoots

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:01 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
jayinsat wrote:One comment vaguely related: after watching the video I can truly understand the importance of practicing my reload skills. This officer was having a very difficult time reloading his weapon. Could have been deadly for him if bullets were still coming back at him. Practicing reloads is an important part of training, not just for competition shooting but for life!
I noticed that too. I think he dropped the first mag and went for his 2nd.

A total of 17 rounds were fired and I suspect that many of them were fired by the officer. He may have emptied his gun since he was reloading, but it's possible he was intended to "top off" his handgun. The backstop for the officer appears to be houses. At this point the LEO's amongst us think I'm busting the officer's chops, but I'm not. This is an excellent learning opportunity for all of us. One of the prime firearm safety rules is to know what's behind your target. This rule presumes that you will not fire if innocent people may be in the firing danger zone. This incident points out that, when faced with a deadly threat, you will engage the target regardless of what is behind the person who is trying to kill you. The moral of this story -- practice, practice, practice. It's okay if it takes 10 rounds to stop a threat; it's not okay if it takes 10 rounds to get 1 or 2 into on target. BTW, I don't know how many times the thug was hit, so every one of the officer's rounds may have found their mark. The lesson is for all of us, not just this officer.

Chas.

Re: Suspect raises hands, then shoots

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:11 pm
by MoJo
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
jayinsat wrote:One comment vaguely related: after watching the video I can truly understand the importance of practicing my reload skills. This officer was having a very difficult time reloading his weapon. Could have been deadly for him if bullets were still coming back at him. Practicing reloads is an important part of training, not just for competition shooting but for life!
I noticed that too. I think he dropped the first mag and went for his 2nd.

A total of 17 rounds were fired and I suspect that many of them were fired by the officer. He may have emptied his gun since he was reloading, but it's possible he was intended to "top off" his handgun. The backstop for the officer appears to be houses. At this point the LEO's amongst us think I'm busting the officer's chops, but I'm not. This is an excellent learning opportunity for all of us. One of the prime firearm safety rules is to know what's behind your target. This rule presumes that you will not fire if innocent people may be in the firing danger zone. This incident points out that, when faced with a deadly threat, you will engage the target regardless of what is behind the person who is trying to kill you. The moral of this story -- practice, practice, practice. It's okay if it takes 10 rounds to stop a threat; it's not okay if it takes 10 rounds to get 1 or 2 into on target. BTW, I don't know how many times the thug was hit, so every one of the officer's rounds may have found their mark. The lesson is for all of us, not just this officer.

Chas.
:iagree: AMEN!

Re: Suspect raises hands, then shoots

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:19 pm
by VMI77
Shouldn't that officer have been taking cover during that reload instead of standing virtually out in the open?

Re: Suspect raises hands, then shoots

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:10 pm
by hillfighter
Gibson was not hurt. Solis died on the way to the hospital.
That works for me. It sounds like a much better outcome than the reverse.
Police said Solis was wanted on drug charges from Los Angeles. They said he was also suspected in seven aggravated robberies not long before the chase. The chief said Solis was in the country illegally and was involved in a gang in Houston.
You know, at this point I'm not even going to try to pretend I'm surprised.