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Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:56 am
by rbwhatever1
Not sure I believe he needs to be in jail facing a felony on this. Not a lot of information. Could have been much worse so he was very lucky. Except for the felony and jail thing...
"A Colleyville man is in jail for shooting his daughter in the hand.
Colleyville Police say 53-year-old Steven Johnson was showing his gun to some friends who were visiting his house when it went off.
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Re: Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:25 am
by Jumping Frog
Gotta wonder if there was alcohol involved or something similar that displayed a callous disregard for the child's safety.
Re: Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:43 am
by o b juan
why does the news media say "And the gun went off" Like my car started while I was asleep
Re: Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:01 am
by Keith B
There has to be more to the story than just mishandling the firearm. The story I read states the police felt there was a reason to charge him after 'circumstances observed in the house'.
Re: Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:38 am
by The Annoyed Man
o b juan wrote:why does the news media say "And the gun went off" Like my car started while I was asleep
Because that is exactly what they think guns do......which is why they think that the gun is more dangerous than the mind of the person operating it.
But of course, they buy into all kinds of false narratives, and they don't really care if they sound foolish outside their beltway-mentality echo chamber. In fact, it's not even that they don't care so much as it is that they don't think it is
possible for them to sound foolish. There are none so blind as those who are willfully so.
Re: Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:04 am
by fickman
I went to church with this family at my previous church, but that's been 6 years ago now. We were in a Bible study group together and I'd be very surprised if alcohol was involved. He is (was when I walked with him closely) an upstanding, caring, soft-treading guy with no yahoo in him at all. I know for a fact that this accident devastated him and his sweet wife.
It sounds like a momentary carelessness with a tragic (although not as tragic as it could be) lesson. As far as I know, he has no other criminal history and hopefully he'll get some mercy from the courts.
I can't defend what happened - I'll use it to keep myself in a healthy state of fear and respect. I'm praying for his family and would ask ya'll d the same. I wish I'd kept up with him a little better, I felt compelled to reach out and call but wonder if that might be worse for him since I learned about it on FB and the news first. I trust their family is surrounded by the church we went to right now. They are good at walking with people through mistakes and helping to restore them after tragedy.
So sad.
Re: Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:22 pm
by KD5NRH
Keith B wrote:There has to be more to the story than just mishandling the firearm. The story I read states the police felt there was a reason to charge him after 'circumstances observed in the house'.
Sounds more like they're just throwing the biggest charge they could justify at him knowing that it will be reduced once it gets to court. Unless it gets stuck at felony deadly conduct under 22.05(c) (which would require him
knowingly pointing it at someone) I'd look for it to come down at least to a class A misdemeanor if his lawyer can't get it down to something even lower.
Re: Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:34 pm
by KD5NRH
fickman wrote:I can't defend what happened - I'll use it to keep myself in a healthy state of fear and respect.
This is why I get nervous about trying to teach my girls to shoot with anything more than Airsoft just yet; the oldest is 5, and she's short enough that a pistol pointed down from my normal stance could still be pointed at a vital area if she moved into the line of fire, and also short enough to be under my line of sight, especially if she moves from the right side where my arm blocks my close-in view downward, and where she ends up would be right where I've trained myself to initially point the gun if conditions become unsafe during shooting. (i.e. still downrange and at the dirt within a few feet of me) On a standing adult, the worst case would be hitting the femoral artery or maybe the pelvis, but her head is right there and her torso even lower.
The couple of times I've drawn a gun with her around, (Walking in the woods at mom's; once on a feral hog that kept its distance, and once on something crashing through the underbrush that could have been a pig but turned out to be a really loud armadillo...that's why I like carrying full-power .357 loads.) I've kept my left hand on her the whole time, and used it to make sure she stayed behind me.
Re: Colleyville Dad In Jail for ND, Daughter shot in hand
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:00 pm
by fickman
KD5NRH wrote:fickman wrote:I can't defend what happened - I'll use it to keep myself in a healthy state of fear and respect.
This is why I get nervous about trying to teach my girls to shoot with anything more than Airsoft just yet; the oldest is 5, and she's short enough that a pistol pointed down from my normal stance could still be pointed at a vital area if she moved into the line of fire, and also short enough to be under my line of sight, especially if she moves from the right side where my arm blocks my close-in view downward, and where she ends up would be right where I've trained myself to initially point the gun if conditions become unsafe during shooting. (i.e. still downrange and at the dirt within a few feet of me) On a standing adult, the worst case would be hitting the femoral artery or maybe the pelvis, but her head is right there and her torso even lower.
The couple of times I've drawn a gun with her around, (Walking in the woods at mom's; once on a feral hog that kept its distance, and once on something crashing through the underbrush that could have been a pig but turned out to be a really loud armadillo...that's why I like carrying full-power .357 loads.) I've kept my left hand on her the whole time, and used it to make sure she stayed behind me.
Not to drift too far off topic, but the couple of times my kids have been allowed to shoot their .22 Marlin, we were on land and I had a pallet laid out to shoot prone. I was sort of "hovering" over them and talked through each step while my wife was about 30 yards behinds me on a Kabota utility truck with the other kids (she had vision to see the whole range area and was in the shade, which was nice as it was mid-July). When we switched kids, I stayed with the unloaded rifle, the kid coming off the line walked back to the Kabota and sent the next kid for their turn.
I'm terrified of the thought that you can't get a bullet back once it starts flying. No room for one moment of inattention. Stories like this are a scary reminder to always be vigilant and err on the side of caution - even if the precautionary steps are robotic and approach paranoia.