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In Kalifornia, no less. The media is conspicuous in their absence.

Crazy white guy breaks into an apartment and threatens to cut the 5 residents' throats with a piece of broken glass.

The black resident grabs his evil WWII assault rifle and fires one shot, wounding crazy white guy in both legs. Resident cooperates with police, is not arrested, and the public never hears about it because the media doesn't care to report an incident they can't spin their way.

So much for all those narratives by the media… Evil, racist white cops did not arrest a black man who shot a crazy, drugged up white guy with an evil semi-auto “assault rifle”, the very type of gun that is never used in a home defense scenario.

http://www.thebangswitch.com/another-se ... r-happens/

Kudos for the apartment dweller who defended him and the 4 others in the apartment. Good for him.

And kudos to the cop that reported it on the website, so it could be recorded.

An assault rifle? An M1 carbine is classified an assault rifle in California? That's funny!

Locally, in more liberal areas, media SOP is to headline every misuse of a gun and ignore every legal and appropriate use of self-defense. Locally, in more conservative areas, the SOP is to occasionally publish the use of a gun in self-defense in hopes of either discrediting the victim or making him a further target. Making the victim a target can also be an objective in more liberal areas, but for that to happen, the narrative usually has to be evil White man shoots innocent teen or some member of an official victim group.

Nationally, the media SOP is to ignore any story of legitimate self-defense, but especially those that deviate from the desired narrative; and to headline any misuse of a gun, no matter how trivial, especially those that fit the desired narrative.

BTW, based on my youthful experiences with the M1 carbine, and while I don't believe all those stories from the Korean War that it is useless, I don't consider it to be quite as effective as some other rifles or a shotgun.....but more like a handgun round.

joe817 wrote:Kudos for the apartment dweller who defended him and the 4 others in the apartment. Good for him.

And kudos to the cop that reported it on the website, so it could be recorded.

An assault rifle? An M1 carbine is classified an assault rifle in California? That's funny!

I was being sarcastic because the article stated that Kalifornia keeps trying to classify the M1 carbine as an assault rifle.

VMI77 wrote:BTW, based on my youthful experiences with the M1 carbine, and while I don't believe all those stories from the Korean War that it is useless, I don't consider it to be quite as effective as some other rifles or a shotgun.....but more like a handgun round.

I believe that one of the criteria for the rifle was that it be a pistol caliber carbine so it would be easier for non-front line troops to shoot. Winchester just designed their own round for it. I always figured they did that because they needed a bit more "oompf" to drive the carbine's oprod system.

Pawpaw wrote:

VMI77 wrote:BTW, based on my youthful experiences with the M1 carbine, and while I don't believe all those stories from the Korean War that it is useless, I don't consider it to be quite as effective as some other rifles or a shotgun.....but more like a handgun round.

I believe that one of the criteria for the rifle was that it be a pistol caliber carbine so it would be easier for non-front line troops to shoot. Winchester just designed their own round for it. I always figured they did that because they needed a bit more "oompf" to drive the carbine's oprod system.

And it looks like a big handgun round too. I still love the gun though. And it's short overall length makes it fairly easy to manage inside a building without, I would think (though have never tested) having as much concern about over penetration as you would for a standard rifle round.

VMI77 wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:

VMI77 wrote:BTW, based on my youthful experiences with the M1 carbine, and while I don't believe all those stories from the Korean War that it is useless, I don't consider it to be quite as effective as some other rifles or a shotgun.....but more like a handgun round.

I believe that one of the criteria for the rifle was that it be a pistol caliber carbine so it would be easier for non-front line troops to shoot. Winchester just designed their own round for it. I always figured they did that because they needed a bit more "oompf" to drive the carbine's oprod system.

And it looks like a big handgun round too. I still love the gun though. And it's short overall length makes it fairly easy to manage inside a building without, I would think (though have never tested) having as much concern about over penetration as you would for a standard rifle round.

I hardly ever shoot my '44 Winchester, but it stays loaded (with soft points) in the safe. In an emergency, it is one of our go-to firearms.

I took a whitetail deer doe with an M1 Carbine in 1964, it was effective if not a "knockdown."

I purchased an M-1 carbine through the NRA's CMP program back in 1962. Since I was only 15 Dad had to sign the form before I mailed it in. He encouraged it. (Thanks Dad, I miss you.) Cost me $16.50 + $1.75 postage. I squaked at the postage, but Dad say pay it anyway, if you want the darn thing....I didn't argue.

When I got it I went into Wichita Falls, found a pawn shop that had TONS of Mil-surp ammo for what you'd expect(30.06, .45, .30 M-1 carbine). The bandoleer for the .30(12 pouches of 2x10 round stripper clips) cost either $5.00 or $6.00(it's been a while, don't you know)(BTW: .45 ammo at that pawn shop was $5.00 per box of 50 mil-surp, had a WW1 bring back 1911, but that's another story, lol).

I had a great time shooting it. Blasting away to my hearts content at anything that moved, or didn't move. I killed a lot of dead mesquite trees. Lol. Ammo back then was unlimitless. I bought 4 or 5 bandoleers at at time not even thinking about it. After all, why would a 15 year old even think of something like that. My own money? Made it through selling off my 2 or 3 calves per year that Dad let me. Provided me with extra spending money for a kid. Didn't buy much else.

Ugggghhh! Sorry for hijacking the thread. Had to get that story in. Had a need to, if you know what I mean.

Thanks for listening.