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...may I pick your collective expertise, please?

Scenario:

While sitting in a public library a school bus pulls up and disgorges a class of third-graders who are obviously on a school field trip/function. The children fan out among the stacks.

Must a licensed concealed-carrier depart the premises or disarm? May the library throw up a temporary 30.06 sign until the class leaves?

While these are important questions already, if/when Open Carry passes and a library patron is in there with a handgun exposed in his shoulder holster, he, and the library, better know the exact procedure to follow. Concealed won't mean concealed in that case!

Thank you for your input.

This same kind of scenario has been discussed ad infinitum. The short answer is: if you are part of that school trip, you may not carry, but if you are not part of that trip, you may carry - so long as it is in a location where it is otherwise legal for you to carry. Doesn't matter if it is a library or a zoo or a public park.......or whatever. If you are legal to carry there, and you are not part of the school activity that shows up out of the blue to that location, you do not lose your rights and privileges under CHL just because somebody got there after you did.

If you want to see some of the specific discussion with comments from Charles, this would be a good start:

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Thanks, TAM. Guess I missed the earlier discussion(s).

And based on that reply, if the public library were to post a temporary 30.06/30.07 sign it would be just as unlawful as it is today? That's what I gather from your words, above.

It would be unenforceable but not unlawful. If SB273/HB226 passes cities, counties, and local governments would face a civil fine, but still would not be illegal to post an unenforceable sign.

thechl wrote:Thanks, TAM. Guess I missed the earlier discussion(s).

And based on that reply, if the public library were to post a temporary 30.06/30.07 sign it would be just as unlawful as it is today? That's what I gather from your words, above.

rtschl wrote:It would be unenforceable but not unlawful. If SB273/HB226 passes cities, counties, and local governments would face a civil fine, but still would not be illegal to post an unenforceable sign.

What rtschl said.... It would be one of those "you might beat the rap but not the ride" things.

To post a 30.06 sign after the fact, would be like the state changing in a speed limit sign after you drive by then writing you a ticket for speeding. Not likely to happen.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

thechl wrote:Thanks, TAM. Guess I missed the earlier discussion(s).

And based on that reply, if the public library were to post a temporary 30.06/30.07 sign it would be just as unlawful as it is today? That's what I gather from your words, above.

rtschl wrote:It would be unenforceable but not unlawful. If SB273/HB226 passes cities, counties, and local governments would face a civil fine, but still would not be illegal to post an unenforceable sign.

What rtschl said.... It would be one of those "you might beat the rap but not the ride" things.

And unfortunately the "ignorance of the law is no excuse" thing only applies to us citizens.