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Do you think CCW/CHL holders in US will be a Deterrent for Jihads?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:53 am
by BCGlocker
Most industrial countries are anti-gun or outright ban guns for everyday citizens, is that why we see more attacks by jihads at these “gun-free” countries?

11.1 million US citizens have CCW/CHL, do you think that will be a deterrent for these backward religious nut jobs?

Re: Do you think CCW/CHL holders in US will be a Deterrent for Jihads?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:58 am
by The Wall
Look what's happening in Paris. I would say yes to your question. But that doesn't mean they won't keep trying. I think it's also why they have used cowardice methods so far.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:07 am
by Abraham
I need a bit of clarification on your question.

Do you mean terrorists won't attempt to rain bullets on U.S. citizens because they're too frightened by the prospect of being shot by gun toting Americans?

If so, remember the recent Garland, Texas terrorist attempt?

To be sure, it wasn't on the scale of the Paris terrorism, but it happened and in Texas to boot!

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:22 am
by wil
A complete deterrent, where they wouldn't try it at all? No. By virtue of the fact they know there are armed inviduals walking around and they dont know who is who and/or where they are (CCW holders), It greatly lessens the odds of it happening in the first place. And if it does happen, armed private individuals being there when it happens massively improves the odds of survival for those who'd otherwise be helpless.
This has been proven repeatedly.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:23 am
by BCGlocker
Abraham wrote:I need a bit of clarification on your question.

Do you mean terrorists won't attempt to rain bullets on U.S. citizens because they're too frightened by the prospect of being shot by gun toting Americans?

If so, remember the recent Garland, Texas terrorist attempt?

To be sure, it wasn't on the scale of the Paris terrorism, but it happened and in Texas to boot!
I fully realize CHL holders will not likely to be able to spot/stop a terrorist with a bomb vest or able to outshoot several jihads with AK47s, however, it seemed these “Gun-Free” countries are likely to be a much “softer” targets, thus I ask the question if CCW/CHL holders could be a deterrent?

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:29 am
by DEB
I don't know if it will be much of a deterrent, but maybe and prayerfully they can and will be stopped before so many are taken. At least, in those States or areas that allow the freedom to carry, one won't have to wait to be slaughtered without any recourse. Personally even if I lose, I would like to have had a fighting chance, instead of waiting for someone else carrying a gun to arrive. This is one of the biggest issues I have working here at Fort Hood, we are just like those Parisians, we have to wait to be rescued.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:34 am
by RPBrown
It did not deter them on 9/11. I think they are already planning their attacks on the USA. They will most likely hit gun free places, however, if they know for instance, only about 1 million out of 27 million people in Texas are legally armed, they may think the odds are in their favor

Re: Do you think CCW/CHL holders in US will be a Deterrent for Jihads?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:34 am
by Abraham
BCGlocker,

No, I don't think so.

I would really LIKE to think it would help prevent terrorists from attacking, but I highly doubt it.

Remember, these monsters aren't afraid to die.

Re: Do you think CCW/CHL holders in US will be a Deterrent for Jihads?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:38 am
by Beiruty
Simple answer is NO.
Would some armed citizen engage them in a firefight and stop the threat or minimize the threat, maybe.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:14 am
by baldeagle
You question indicates that you don't really understand the jihadis. They want to take over the world, and they seek death. So the presence of armed individuals, open or concealed carry, won't change their plans at all. The only solution to the problem is their extermination, and that's not going to happen because world leaders don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done.

This is a problem we're going to have to live with until no one is any longer crying Islamaphobia! Islamaphobia! And the people suffering the most from these guys are other Muslims, so those who scream Islamaphobia clearly don't care about Muslims.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:20 am
by jed
Beiruty wrote:Simple answer is NO.
Would some armed citizen engage them in a firefight and stop the threat or minimize the threat, maybe.
:iagree: This is the real question. I think our eventual survival depends on us, not our govt.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:27 pm
by VMI77
Not a deterrent at all. And in most places where these attacks WILL occur CC is effectively prohibited. It's debatable how much concealed carriers may mitigate such an attack....they did in the African mall attack....but I expect our police response will be much more rapid and organized.

What's our treasonous rat of a President want to do after these attacks? Increase the number of potential terrorists entering the US. Obviously, with our deliberately open borders and treasonous political officials (can't stomach calling these rats "leaders") the traitors running the show want attacks like the one in Paris happening here.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:32 pm
by Richbirdhunter
RPBrown wrote:It did not deter them on 9/11. I think they are already planning their attacks on the USA. They will most likely hit gun free places, however, if they know for instance, only about 1 million out of 27 million people in Texas are legally armed, they may think the odds are in their favor
How many people carry in their trucks? I think there's a lot more guns in the area then we think.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:49 pm
by greenbeer
I think your looking for a logical answer to an illogical problem. Your trying to look at this situation levelheaded and by the numbers. These people don't look at it that way at all. They have taken over large parts of countries with relative ease and low numbers. They strive for martyrdom. So a CHL holder wouldn't be a deterrent to this type of mindset. I see them using different tactics in an attack in the states. I.e. Using a plane as a weapon as opposed to the type of attacks we saw yesterday. That's not to say that they wouldn't try a style such as Paris in the states but I think they want more bang for the buck type attacks here.

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:50 pm
by carlson1
It is not a deterrent because they are seeking death. Thm dying is how they are able to reach their paradise with 72 virgins. :mad5