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I heard today that Applebee's texas will be posting both 30.06 and 30.07 signs at all locations. Anyone else noticed businesses posting both lately that once allowed concealed carry?

Applebee's food has gone so far downhill that it isn't even worth eating.

I haven't eaten there in a few years. I wonder if robberies will go up in the new gun free zone

Tylerscott20 wrote:I heard today that Applebee's texas will be posting both 30.06 and 30.07 signs at all locations. Anyone else noticed businesses posting both lately that once allowed concealed carry?

Got a source on this?

Right2Carry wrote:Applebee's food has gone so far downhill that it isn't even worth eating.

CoffeeNut wrote:

Tylerscott20 wrote:I heard today that Applebee's texas will be posting both 30.06 and 30.07 signs at all locations. Anyone else noticed businesses posting both lately that once allowed concealed carry?

Got a source on this?

It was a memo from corporate i believe. I only got to read it and i didn't think it appropriate to take a picture of it.

I did not find a listing for Applebees in Texas3006.org. Must not have gone up yet.

OneGun wrote:I did not find a listing for Applebees in Texas3006.org. Must not have gone up yet.

I drove by the one at Grapevine mills this morning just to take a look and nothing was posted at on the doors

I've eaten at Applebee's twice, last time in 1998. Their food is bland and poor quality. So not like their decision will affect me.

I think we will see more and more restaurants and stores start posting up after the new year.

The OP here was simply noting that a popular establishment is posting both signs, and asked if others have noticed businesses having done so. As usually happens, half the responses are about the quality of the food, or the service, etc, so this won't affect them.**

But is is relevant. You may not go there, but if there is a proliferation of these signs, then it will eventually impact us more. I hope that the early burst of signs going up falls by the wayside, and it eventually becomes less common.

** When I hear this type of retort, I'm reminded of the famous quote by Pastor Martin Niemöller. According to Wikipedia, the his quote is, "about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and the subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group."

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

We shouldn't derail the intent of the OP by saying "it's OK because I don't go there". While the latter half of the statement may well be true, the first half isn't. We should all be good ambassadors of the 2nd Amendment, hoping to steer some of these businesses to making better decisions than creating free-fire zones (yes, we have better impact with small business than with Applebees, but the idea is still the same).

And, we need to recognize that any sign, anywhere, does matter, no matter whether you personally go there or not. Even if you fully support the right of the business to post the sign, it still affects us all. Just like the flap of a butterfly's wing may impact a tornado far away, these signs do matter.

Vol Texan wrote:The OP here was simply noting that a popular establishment is posting both signs, and asked if others have noticed businesses having done so. As usually happens, half the responses are about the quality of the food, or the service, etc, so this won't affect them.**

But is is relevant. You may not go there, but if there is a proliferation of these signs, then it will eventually impact us more. I hope that the early burst of signs going up falls by the wayside, and it eventually becomes less common.

** When I hear this type of retort, I'm reminded of the famous quote by Pastor Martin Niemöller. According to Wikipedia, the his quote is, "about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and the subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group."

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

We shouldn't derail the intent of the OP by saying "it's OK because I don't go there". While the latter half of the statement may well be true, the first half isn't. We should all be good ambassadors of the 2nd Amendment, hoping to steer some of these businesses to making better decisions than creating free-fire zones (yes, we have better impact with small business than with Applebees, but the idea is still the same).

I get the gist of what you're saying, but I don't think many people (including myself) are going to complain to management or corporate about a store/restaurant we don't visit to begin with. There's not enough time in the day to do that.

At some point the free market will prevail and Applebee's will improve its product, or go extinct. Those that frequent it can take up the fight to carry there.

TVGuy wrote:

Vol Texan wrote:The OP here was simply noting that a popular establishment is posting both signs, and asked if others have noticed businesses having done so. As usually happens, half the responses are about the quality of the food, or the service, etc, so this won't affect them.**

But is is relevant. You may not go there, but if there is a proliferation of these signs, then it will eventually impact us more. I hope that the early burst of signs going up falls by the wayside, and it eventually becomes less common.

** When I hear this type of retort, I'm reminded of the famous quote by Pastor Martin Niemöller. According to Wikipedia, the his quote is, "about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and the subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group."

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

We shouldn't derail the intent of the OP by saying "it's OK because I don't go there". While the latter half of the statement may well be true, the first half isn't. We should all be good ambassadors of the 2nd Amendment, hoping to steer some of these businesses to making better decisions than creating free-fire zones (yes, we have better impact with small business than with Applebees, but the idea is still the same).

I get the gist of what you're saying, but I don't think many people (including myself) are going to complain to management or corporate about a store/restaurant we don't visit to begin with. There's not enough time in the day to do that.

At some point the free market will prevail and Applebee's will improve its product, or go extinct. Those that frequent it can take up the fight to carry there.

I agree with you. All I'm trying to say is that it's bigger than the fact that you personally don't like Applebees. (Not you, specifically, but you, the generic reader).

The same thing happened with the Whataburger discussion, "doesn't matter to me because I don't eat there", is not really a thoughtful response to someone saying, "Gosh, Whataburger is a Texas establishment, and I expected more from them". Instead, it sort of derails the conversation to focus instead on the quality of their food, rather than the business decision that does, indeed impact all of us, whether we eat burgers or not.

The idea is to look beyond whether you visit a particular establishment, but rather to see the bigger picture - that's all.

Vol Texan wrote:The OP here was simply noting that a popular establishment is posting both signs, and asked if others have noticed businesses having done so. As usually happens, half the responses are about the quality of the food, or the service, etc, so this won't affect them.**

But is is relevant. You may not go there, but if there is a proliferation of these signs, then it will eventually impact us more. I hope that the early burst of signs going up falls by the wayside, and it eventually becomes less common.

** When I hear this type of retort, I'm reminded of the famous quote by Pastor Martin Niemöller. According to Wikipedia, the his quote is, "about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and the subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group."

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

We shouldn't derail the intent of the OP by saying "it's OK because I don't go there". While the latter half of the statement may well be true, the first half isn't. We should all be good ambassadors of the 2nd Amendment, hoping to steer some of these businesses to making better decisions than creating free-fire zones (yes, we have better impact with small business than with Applebees, but the idea is still the same).

And, we need to recognize that any sign, anywhere, does matter, no matter whether you personally go there or not. Even if you fully support the right of the business to post the sign, it still affects us all. Just like the flap of a butterfly's wing may impact a tornado far away, these signs do matter.

Granted, we may not all desire to OC. And that's OK. And granted, we (LTC'ers), being relatively small in number, may not have a big influence on big corporations like Applebee's. But, I think we should try to cooperate with one another to make this OC thing work, and try to do it in a manner that will possibly influence some of these businesses to understand that we (LTC'ers) are the "good guys".

Best wishes to everyone for the coming New Year!

Well apparently half price books in the DFW area is posting both signs now. It was never an issue before, but they made it one now.