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Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:11 pm
by Pinkycatcher
Was looking at going and saw this on their website:
No open carry of handguns. No concealed carry of handguns.
located here: http://mayfest.org/festival-guide

It's on a public park so it's definitely legal to carry there, anyone ever been and are there metal detectors?

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:08 pm
by rtschl
It might be off limits if it is posted 51% due to a vendor license. Based on other postings I think it depends on the address on the license. According to the website they do have vendors selling beer and wine. I have never been so I do not know if they wand people.

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:18 am
by ScottDLS
rtschl wrote:It might be off limits if it is posted 51% due to a vendor license. Based on other postings I think it depends on the address on the license. According to the website they do have vendors selling beer and wine. I have never been so I do not know if they wand people.
If the alcohol vendors aren't in a building, then the park wouldn't meet the 46.035 definition of "premises" so carrying would seem to be OK outside of the actual structure where the alcohol was sold.

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:47 am
by steveincowtown
In the past they have not had any sort of metal detectors.

They do have people selling alcohol out of outdoor booths.

I will guarantee you they will post 30.06 and 30.07 signs.

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:54 am
by steveincowtown
Just tweeted:

"@MayfestFW @fortworthpd @KenPaxtonTX Under what law are you banning the carry of handguns by law abiding/LTC Texans at Mayfest?(Public Park)"

Growing very tired of ignorance of the law being OK if your are the City, but not OK if are a citizen!!

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:44 am
by RicoTX
steveincowtown wrote: Growing very tired of ignorance of the law being OK if your are the City, but not OK if are a citizen!!
Me too! It needs to be a criminal offense.

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:05 am
by RSX11
I think the legally required text for 30.06 and 30.07 signs should include something like "This sign is not valid for use on government owned property".

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:10 am
by crazy2medic
RSX11 wrote:I think the legally required text for 30.06 and 30.07 signs should include something like "This sign is not valid for use on government owned property".
:iagree:

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:35 am
by rtschl
RSX11 wrote:I think the legally required text for 30.06 and 30.07 signs should include something like "This sign is not valid for use on government owned property".
:iagree: except I would change it in part to read: This sign is not valid for use on government owned or leased property.

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:21 pm
by hovercat
State issued 3006/07 signs.
To include the address that the sign is valid for.

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:02 pm
by Caliber
Haven't been in a while, but I think they had rides, so maybe it's considered an amusement park.

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:10 pm
by Flightmare
Caliber wrote:Haven't been in a while, but I think they had rides, so maybe it's considered an amusement park.
It doesn't meet the 120 days open qualifier since Mayfest is only open for a few weeks.

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:24 pm
by Soccerdad1995
hovercat wrote:State issued 3006/07 signs.
To include the address that the sign is valid for.
I really, really like this idea. Make the property owner apply for a 30.06 sign and provide a justification along with proof that they are a location that is allowed to prohibit carry. After an administrative review (similar timeline to what it takes to get your LTC), then you get the sign. Maybe also include a test that the property owner needs to pass showing that they understand the relevant laws on sign placement, etc.

For government owned or leased property, since the legal ability to prohibit carry is an exception, all requests must be submitted directly to the AG, who will then publicly announce them, allow a 90 day period for public comment and then make a ruling within 180 days after that comment period has closed (9 months total).

Re: Fort Worth Mayfest

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:12 pm
by rtschl
And make the fees for the signs proportional to what the cost of LTC plastic with an expiration date on sign that requires renewing and new signs every 3 years. :biggrinjester: