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Tex. Gov't Code §411.207 wrote:(b) A peace officer who is acting in the lawful discharge of the officer's official duties may temporarily disarm a license holder when a license holder enters a nonpublic, secure portion of a law enforcement facility, if the law enforcement agency provides a gun locker where the peace officer can secure the license holder's handgun. The peace officer shall secure the handgun in the locker and shall return the handgun to the license holder immediately after the license holder leaves the nonpublic, secure portion of the law enforcement facility.
(c) A law enforcement facility shall prominently display at each entrance to a nonpublic, secure portion of the facility a sign that gives notice in both English and Spanish that, under this section, a peace officer may temporarily disarm a license holder when the license holder enters the nonpublic, secure portion of the facility. The sign must appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height. The sign shall be displayed in a clearly visible and conspicuous manner.
(d) In this section:
- (1) "Law enforcement facility" means a building or a portion of a building used exclusively by a law enforcement agency that employs peace officers as described by Articles 2.12(1) and (3), Code of Criminal Procedure, and support personnel to conduct the official business of the agency. The term does not include:
(2) "Nonpublic, secure portion of a law enforcement facility" means that portion of a law enforcement facility to which the general public is denied access without express permission and to which access is granted solely to conduct the official business of the law enforcement agency.
- (A) any portion of a building not actively used exclusively to conduct the official business of the agency; or
(B) any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk, walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
Thanks Charles! Very helpful for me... I do volunteer work that takes place at (inside secure area, but not the jail) my local PD and was worried about exactly this. Must not have searched the correct keywords when googling.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Tex. Gov't Code §411.207 wrote:(b) A peace officer who is acting in the lawful discharge of the officer's official duties may temporarily disarm a license holder when a license holder enters a nonpublic, secure portion of a law enforcement facility, if the law enforcement agency provides a gun locker where the peace officer can secure the license holder's handgun. The peace officer shall secure the handgun in the locker and shall return the handgun to the license holder immediately after the license holder leaves the nonpublic, secure portion of the law enforcement facility.
(c) A law enforcement facility shall prominently display at each entrance to a nonpublic, secure portion of the facility a sign that gives notice in both English and Spanish that, under this section, a peace officer may temporarily disarm a license holder when the license holder enters the nonpublic, secure portion of the facility. The sign must appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height. The sign shall be displayed in a clearly visible and conspicuous manner.
(d) In this section:
- (1) "Law enforcement facility" means a building or a portion of a building used exclusively by a law enforcement agency that employs peace officers as described by Articles 2.12(1) and (3), Code of Criminal Procedure, and support personnel to conduct the official business of the agency. The term does not include:
(2) "Nonpublic, secure portion of a law enforcement facility" means that portion of a law enforcement facility to which the general public is denied access without express permission and to which access is granted solely to conduct the official business of the law enforcement agency.
- (A) any portion of a building not actively used exclusively to conduct the official business of the agency; or
(B) any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk, walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
Why is the metal detector there if he "doesn't need to see" a LTC for someone who is carrying a weapon. When it beeps I guess you are just supposed to tell him, "it's just my licensed concealed handgun" and he would wave you right through since he "doesn't need to see" the actual LTC? That makes even less sense than the security theatre that we go through to board an airplane.koine2002 wrote:I went there to get a police report. I was carrying. I showed the guy at the metal detector/x-Ray my LTC before proceeding forward. He said, "I don't need to see that." I went through, it beeped, and he let me through. There is a sign on a door that goes somewhere else summarizing the code that Charles referenced. I was never disarmed nor challenged.drjoker wrote:can i carry legally at the dallas police station on 1400 s lamar?
If it has a jail, then i guess not, but if it is offices only like the dps office then i could carry away.
My guess would be, 1. If you have a license you will show it once the metal detector goes off. 2. if you have anything else concealed, like the knife I carry all the time, they would want to know about it.Soccerdad1995 wrote:Why is the metal detector there if he "doesn't need to see" a LTC for someone who is carrying a weapon. When it beeps I guess you are just supposed to tell him, "it's just my licensed concealed handgun" and he would wave you right through since he "doesn't need to see" the actual LTC? That makes even less sense than the security theatre that we go through to board an airplane.
drjoker, your experience is the way it's supposed to happen! Well done!drjoker wrote:I just came back from the police staion, open carrying, because I didn't want them to think I was trying to sneak anything through. No muss, no fuss. They looked at my CHL, then locked my gun in a locker next to the front door. I was not delayed nor hasseled due to open carry. I feel sorry for all those guys on Youtube hassled by non-Texas cops for open carrying.
How does that work? Do you draw your handgun out and put it in a locker or does the police off sir disarm you and put it into a locker? Do they clear the round out of the chamber first or do you? I am new to LTC so I'm simply asking questions about when you have to remove your gun and put into a locker.drjoker wrote:I just came back from the police staion, open carrying, because I didn't want them to think I was trying to sneak anything through. No muss, no fuss. They looked at my CHL, then locked my gun in a locker next to the front door. I was not delayed nor hasseled due to open carry. I feel sorry for all those guys on Youtube hassled by non-Texas cops for open carrying.
Did you go in the secure portion of the facility? If not, why'd they make you disarm?drjoker wrote:I just came back from the police staion, open carrying, because I didn't want them to think I was trying to sneak anything through. No muss, no fuss. They looked at my CHL, then locked my gun in a locker next to the front door. I was not delayed nor hasseled due to open carry. I feel sorry for all those guys on Youtube hassled by non-Texas cops for open carrying.
TreyHouston wrote:How does that work? Do you draw your handgun out and put it in a locker or does the police off sir disarm you and put it into a locker? Do they clear the round out of the chamber first or do you? I am new to LTC so I'm simply asking questions about when you have to remove your gun and put into a locker.
I was also wondering. If you stayed in the public portion and they disarmed you that's a way of skirting the law... "We won't post a sign, but as soon as you walk in we'll disarm you".txyaloo wrote:Did you go in the secure portion of the facility? If not, why'd they make you disarm?