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TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:39 pm
by philip964
http://www.click2houston.com/news/one-k ... e-invasion
The wisdom of not having a gun and running for help.
Love the headline by the news media
Sarcasm off.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:54 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
It would be a bad idea to break my door in.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:09 pm
by cirus
I'm torn here. Part of me feels sorry for the homeowner and the other part doesn't. Why would anyone rely on someone else to protect them. The 911 mentality at its finest.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:08 pm
by Jim Beaux
cirus wrote:I'm torn here. Part of me feels sorry for the homeowner and the other part doesn't. Why would anyone rely on someone else to protect them. The 911 mentality at its finest.

Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:32 am
by Abraham
Maybe the dead man wasn't allowed to own a gun.
Ever consider that?
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:01 am
by cirus
Other than if they were a convicted felon what other reasons would there be for not being allowed to own a gun? Don't mean to sound callous. If they were not allowed to own a gun then they have my sympathies.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:26 am
by Abraham
This: "Other than if they were a convicted felon..."
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:35 am
by cirus
My point was in this day and age.with things.the way they are your crazy to not have some sort of firearm in your home. If you don't want to cc or have one in your vehicle that's one thing but to rely on someone else for your safety is unrealistic. No one is responsible for your safety but you.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:18 pm
by Soccerdad1995
cirus wrote:Other than if they were a convicted felon what other reasons would there be for not being allowed to own a gun? Don't mean to sound callous. If they were not allowed to own a gun then they have my sympathies.
There are a number of other reasons why someone may not be able to legally own a gun in Texas.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:57 pm
by Vol Texan
Soccerdad1995 wrote:cirus wrote:Other than if they were a convicted felon what other reasons would there be for not being allowed to own a gun? Don't mean to sound callous. If they were not allowed to own a gun then they have my sympathies.
There are a number of other reasons why someone may not be able to legally own a gun in Texas.
And there are a number of reasons why, even if you could own a firearm, and did own a firearm, you might not have it right there at your side when the attack occurs. In the rush of the attack, you may not be able to get to it, and you'd likely be in the same situation as this poor guy.
That doesn't happen in my house, as I carry at home as well, but I recognize that not everyone does. So the 'wisdom of not having a gun and running for help' could just as easily be the 'bad luck of not having it right there by your side the very second you need it to be there and running for help'.
Either way, a very sad story.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:07 pm
by Dave2
Abraham wrote:Maybe the dead man wasn't allowed to own a gun.
Ever consider that?
Yep. Or maybe he knew his own mental limitations and decided not to get a gun. I know a girl who's not sure she's stable enough to own a gun, and I'm not sure I disagree. Does that mean that if someone breaks into her apt, she deserves what she gets?
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:14 pm
by Middle Age Russ
I much prefer stories where the homeowner prevails and repels the assault/invasion. Fleeing in terror from one's domicile is not a course of action anyone should have to resort to, but many folks seem content with that as their only option, trusting that 9-1-1 will protect them. Whether armed with a sidearm as usual or not, my intent would be to resist the invaders first before considering withdrawal.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:51 am
by RoyGBiv
Did anyone read down to the bottom of the article?
Homicide police have not found a motive, but said the victim knew the gunman and suspect the shooting may have been drug related.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:55 am
by sugar land dave
I did read that.
Re: TX: Houston homeowner murdered running for help in home invasion
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:43 am
by MechAg94
A firearm is only one of a number of options for defense of the home. It just happens to be the easiest and likely most effective option. Something as simple as a knife or a spear can get the job done if necessary. I think even felons can own a black powder revolver, but I am not sure if there are specific restrictions on that. Another discussion is hardening the home to make break-ins more difficult. Running to the neighbor's house is way down on the list of options IMO, but I guess every situation is different. Just about all options require prior preparation and thought.