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H Scheduled for public hearing on . . . 03/07/2017

HB 14 from Rep. Murr allowing state psychiatric hospitals to prohibit guns will have hearing in Public Health on Tuesday.
https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.com/ ... ve-session

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... &Bill=HB14

This is the preferred bill to deal with carrying in specific state mental hospitals. HB14 creates a civil penalty where the other bill(s) create a criminal offense. One of the bills is grossly overly-broad and will include far more than state mental hospitals.

Chas.

That we have Charles Cotton watching out for us in the Texas Legislature,,,priceless.

Why is HB14 needed? What is the deficiency in existing law HB14 will correct?

warnmar10 wrote:Why is HB14 needed? What is the deficiency in existing law HB14 will correct?

State or county facilities that have lock downs could not legally post 30.06/30.07 Most people understand that carrying a gun into a psychiatric facility is a bad idea.

Liberty wrote:

warnmar10 wrote:Why is HB14 needed? What is the deficiency in existing law HB14 will correct?

State or county facilities that have lock downs could not legally post 30.06/30.07 Most people understand that carrying a gun into a psychiatric facility is a bad idea.

UT health northeast in Tyler has a 3 psych floors. It's set up like a jail with lock boxes just outside the unit for peace officers to secure their weapons.

warnmar10 wrote:Why is HB14 needed? What is the deficiency in existing law HB14 will correct?

In addition to what Liberty posted, no state hospitals are licensed. Therefore, the prohibition in TPC §46.035(b)(4) that applies only to licensed hospitals does not apply to state hospitals, including state mental hospitals. This means those hospitals cannot post TPC §30.06 signs without violating "Fines for Signs." HB14, unlike other versions, applies only to the ten specific state mental hospitals.

Remember, private hospitals, whether mental hospitals or otherwise, are not subject to "Fines for Signs," so HB14 will have no impact.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

warnmar10 wrote:Why is HB14 needed? What is the deficiency in existing law HB14 will correct?

In addition to what Liberty posted, no state hospitals are licensed. Therefore, the prohibition in TPC §46.035(b)(4) that applies only to licensed hospitals does not apply to state hospitals, including state mental hospitals. This means those hospitals cannot post TPC §30.06 signs without violating "Fines for Signs." HB14, unlike other versions, applies only to the ten specific state mental hospitals.

Remember, private hospitals, whether mental hospitals or otherwise, are not subject to "Fines for Signs," so HB14 will have no impact.

Chas.

Thank you for that explanation. I was wondering too......a hospital is a hospital, right? I didn't realize that this applied specifically to state-owned facilities.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:This is the preferred bill to deal with carrying in specific state mental hospitals. HB14 creates a civil penalty where the other bill(s) create a criminal offense. One of the bills is grossly overly-broad and will include far more than state mental hospitals.

Chas.

Skiprr wrote:That we have Charles Cotton watching out for us in the Texas Legislature,,,priceless.

I FIRST was against it , until I read the bill and read Charles' logic on it.
I understand the bill, I understand the FOR Stance reasons
I agree, and will watch some Dems try to pile on amendments on the floor and pray our Pro-2A elected officials stand firm on another bill regarding "places".
So far, after brief glance at all bills, I'm really only concerned with "more Places" (AND defeating all anti-2A bills that make it to hearings)

To paraphrase (badly) John Kerry, I was FOR it, before I was AGAINST it.

I worked at Austin State Hospital for 5 years back in my college years, and let me tell you, I would NOT want a firearm anywhere near that place.

WATCH NOW: House Public Health Committee to discuss HB 14 related to carrying handguns in state hospitals. http://tlchouse.granicus.com/MediaPlaye ... nt_id=2650
http://bit.ly/WatchHouseLive http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audio/

If not interested in that,

HB421 in Progress

If not interested in that,

the "Bathroom Bill" is at the same time in Senate hearing. http://www.senate.texas.gov/av-live.php

nightmare69 wrote:

Liberty wrote:

warnmar10 wrote:Why is HB14 needed? What is the deficiency in existing law HB14 will correct?

State or county facilities that have lock downs could not legally post 30.06/30.07 Most people understand that carrying a gun into a psychiatric facility is a bad idea.

UT health northeast in Tyler has a 3 psych floors. It's set up like a jail with lock boxes just outside the unit for peace officers to secure their weapons.

And its posted 30.06 for A building. So non LEO couldn't even enter the building.