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Lynyrd wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 2:44 pm I wonder why both of the men who confronted the shooter did not have their weapons on them at the time? Obviously they were ready willing and able to use them.

troglodyte wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 5:00 pm

Lynyrd wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 2:44 pm I wonder why both of the men who confronted the shooter did not have their weapons on them at the time? Obviously they were ready willing and able to use them.

Maybe the restaurant was posted and the good guys had stored their firearms in the trunk while they were eating.

TITLE 21 § 1290.22 - BUSINESS OWNER’S RIGHTS

A. Except as provided in subsection B of this section, nothing contained in any provision of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, … shall be construed to limit, restrict or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of any person, property owner, tenant, employer, or business entity to control the possession of weapons on any property owned or controlled by the person or business entity.

B. No person, property owner, tenant, employer, or business entity shall be permitted to establish any policy or rule that has the effect of prohibiting any person, except a convicted felon, from transporting and storing firearms in a locked vehicle on any property set aside for any vehicle.

Blue Lives Matter has confirmed that Louie's has a sign on their door prohibiting firearms. It has not been confirmed that this is the reason the heroes had to run to to their vehicles to get their weapons.

ScottDLS wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 7:05 pm Why did these two bystanders think they were LEO's and get involved in something that was none of their business? They should have called 911 and run away. How did they know the shooter wasn't a LEO doing a no knock warrant on the restaurant for serving minors. And were the bystanders veterans? This is very important to the story.

Whittle is a master sergeant in the Oklahoma Air National Guard. He says he got his .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol and moved toward where everyone was pointing. He says he crouched behind parked cars for cover.

Whittle says he isn't a hero. He says: "I'm just an average guy who had the right tool to help at the right time."

Whittle wasn't aware that another armed civilian was helping until the suspect fell to the ground.

...Whittle said he and his wife were driving by the lakeside restaurant, Louie’s On The Lake, when they saw a commotion outside. Whittle said he pulled into the parking lot, and witnesses pointed out the gunman, who investigators say had shot and wounded a woman and two girls inside.

“I just reacted,” the 39-year-old said. “I wasn’t thinking about anything other than I had to stop this guy and I’m not going to die here.”

Whittle, a master sergeant in the Oklahoma Air National Guard, said he grabbed his .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol and moved toward where everyone was pointing. He said he crouched behind parked cars for cover and yelled at the gunman to drop his weapon. He realized the gunman was wearing protective ear gear, so he gestured with his hand, but the gunman raised his weapon.

Whittle said he heard gunshots. He dove. He said he jumped back up and ran around to the other side of the car. The gunman turned around and looked at him.

“I see the gun again in his hand. And then I, you know, finished trying to stop the threat. Until he fell on the ground,” Whittle said.

He wasn’t aware that another armed civilian had come to help until he heard that man say, “Clear him. I got you. Clear him.”

The other armed bystander, Juan Carlos Nazario, is a trained security guard. He hasn’t talked at length with the media about the confrontation, but he told local television station KWTV that he “just did what I was trained to do to neutralize the situation.”