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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/05/co ... acker.html

A Connecticut man who was assaulted by three juveniles while at work has been sentenced to prison for stabbing one of the attackers.
The Connecticut Post reports 21-year-old Jeffrey Sumpter of Bridgeport received 18 months in jail Monday at a Stamford courthouse.

The paper reported that Sumpter — who was convicted of felony first-degree assault — also will have to spend three years following his release on probation. If he breaks the law during that time, Sumpter could be made to serve all or part of a 42-month prison sentence.

Sumpter was working at a Dunkin’ Donuts in Norwalk last October when he was jumped by three males. During the assault, Sumpter stabbed one of them in the leg. “I was defending myself,” Sumpter said during the hearing.

Judge John Blawie told Sumpter that he believed his version of events, but had to follow the letter of the law.

Under Connecticut law, assault victims cannot use deadly force if they are able to retreat from their attackers. By contrast, 27 states — most notably Florida — have passed so-called “stand-your-ground” laws, which entitle citizens to use force in self-defense if there is a reasonable belief of a threat.

He shouldn't have chased after the attackers once they left the establishment. Locking the doors and calling the police would be proper.

Under Connecticut law, assault victims cannot use deadly force if they are able to retreat from their attackers.

Law or not; as a prosecutor, I would not prosecute that case.

I know school fights are different, but right here in Texas you have to get punched twice and be in a corner before you can fight back. I told my son if he did nothing to provoke it, no one lands a punch on him, and if he defends himself and gets in trouble, I’ll take him out for ice cream. So far he has been able to avoid real fights well into high school. But he knows where the line is should it be needed.

There are reports that the reason Sumpter was charged is because he did not retreat, he chased them and then stabbed one of them.

I could not copy and paste the link. This information puts a new angle on the story.

OneGun wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:32 pm There are reports that the reason Sumpter was charged is because he did not retreat, he chased them and then stabbed one of them.

I could not copy and paste the link. This information puts a new angle on the story.

I read that too on a link, but just my opinion, if you're jumped by three guys and you chase one down and stab him you deserve a medal.

That fine line between self defense and revenge.

NNT wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:38 pm I know school fights are different, but right here in Texas you have to get punched twice and be in a corner before you can fight back. I told my son if he did nothing to provoke it, no one lands a punch on him, and if he defends himself and gets in trouble, I’ll take him out for ice cream. So far he has been able to avoid real fights well into high school. But he knows where the line is should it be needed.

Where the heck did that come from? Certainly not from Texas law.

NNT wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:38 pm I know school fights are different, but right here in Texas you have to get punched twice and be in a corner before you can fight back. I told my son if he did nothing to provoke it, no one lands a punch on him, and if he defends himself and gets in trouble, I’ll take him out for ice cream. So far he has been able to avoid real fights well into high school. But he knows where the line is should it be needed.

Sounds like something some idiotic school board made up for their district. Whoever wrote it and voted for it has never been at the receiving end of a hard punch. Brainwashed by movies and tv.
In my case there will be no second punches if I am able to respond to the first one. One punch can kill and we have no duty to retreat here in Texas..

Dad taught me to never start a fight. However, if someone else started it he expected me to fight like I was the 3rd gorilla getting on the Ark and brother, it has started to rain.

Conn. just another loony left state to stay out of...

RPBrown wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:57 am Dad taught me to never start a fight. However, if someone else started it he expected me to fight like I was the 3rd gorilla getting on the Ark and brother, it has started to rain.

Thanks for the laugh!

RPBrown wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:57 am Dad taught me to never start a fight. However, if someone else started it he expected me to fight like I was the 3rd gorilla getting on the Ark and brother, it has started to rain.

My brother and I were told...OFTEN...
Never start a fight, walk away if you can, run if you have to..But once it starts, finish it.
My two sons were taught the same......and both have implemented the last part a few times and the first two parts many more times.

The topic is straying a bit but since we are talking about fighting back and what we tell our kids I will mention my concern with the fighting lessons. Many of us older fellers in here can remember having fist fights all through school and many times there would be a new found friendship after getting some swats or after school time in detention together.

Things have changed dramatically. With many schools implementing a zero tolerance policy, fighting will likely get you arrested or even expelled. Another big change is the level of violence teens are exposed to through media. I never once worried about someone stabbing or shooting me over a fight and I spent 8 years of my schooling attending school in Pasadena Texas being one of 10 white guys. These kids are shooting and stabbing each other enough these days that it can be risky even having an argument.