Man Charged After Gun Hidden in Oven Goes Off

[Trainman]

I just read this on Fox.com
Thought it would be an interesting topic.

CHICAGO — Chicago police say two children were injured when a loaded handgun hidden inside an oven discharged when the stove was heated for cooking.

Twenty-four-year-old Anthony Smith of Chicago has been charged with two counts of endangering the life of a child.

Police spokesman Marcel Bright says Smith apparently had hidden the gun in the oven.

The injured children's sister was cooking Friday afternoon when the gun went off. A 4-year-old boy is in stable condition with a gunshot wound to the leg. His 12-year-old brother was struck on the forehead by a fragment from the gun. He has been treated and released.

Smith, a convicted felon on parole, also was charged with unlawful use of a weapon.

It was not immediately clear if Smith was represented by an attorney.

[stevie_d_64]

The injured children's sister was cooking Friday afternoon when the gun went off. A 4-year-old boy is in stable condition with a gunshot wound to the leg. His 12-year-old brother was struck on the forehead by a fragment from the gun. He has been treated and released.

Smith, a convicted felon on parole, also was charged with unlawful use of a weapon.

Yet again, another poorly written story...

"fragment from the gun" One added word ("bullet" fragment) would have increased the IQ of this drivle tremendously...

"unlawful USE of a weapon?" (How about unlawful posession, if anything)...How do they know it was his in the first place...It "could" have been someone elses pistol if I had chosen to write the story poorly...

But I guess I am just being picky or something...

[Lodge2004]

What's up with hiding firearms in the oven? I seem to remember a woman getting shot in San Antonio a year or so ago because her significant other hid a .357 in the oven.

Although I don't use the oven much, it's the last place I would store a firearm. Unless, of course, it was illegal for me to possess in the first place and I wanted to put it somewhere that was accessible to the other occupants so I could deny it was mine. Many years ago, when searching Army barracks for drugs, we normally found it on top of the ceiling tile just outside the door in the hallway.

[bdickens]

Maybe he was baking on one of those pink camo finishes.

[apostate]

Some people. The expression is "bun in the oven" not gun...

[Glock 23]

I just read this on Fox.com
Thought it would be an interesting topic.

Smith, a convicted felon on parole, also was charged with unlawful use of a weapon.

wow, another shocker

[Trainman]

I suppose my interest in this story was more about the feasibility of 'cooking off' (pun intended) a round from the heat generated from the oven. There may be other variables involved in the circumstances in this specific story.
Theoretically, an oven is heated to around 350 - 400 degrees for practical cooking use.
In August, inside my vehicle, the heat may reach that point easily.
Is there a valid comparison there?

[KinnyLee]

Theoretically, an oven is heated to around 350 - 400 degrees for practical cooking use.
In August, inside my vehicle, the heat may reach that point easily.
Is there a valid comparison there?

I know inside of a car may reach 150 c, but I've never heard of 350-400. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Keith B]

Theoretically, an oven is heated to around 350 - 400 degrees for practical cooking use.
In August, inside my vehicle, the heat may reach that point easily.
Is there a valid comparison there?

I know inside of a car may reach 150 c, but I've never heard of 350-400. Maybe I'm wrong.

Cars parked in direct sunlight can reach the 170 - 180F range, but not the 350-400. If that was so, all of your plastic dash and trim would be melted.

[DoubleJ]

I guess "some like it hot."

I think, based on my readings on the interweb, that the biggest fear about having a gun left in yo car, other than theft, would be burning the BeJayzus out of your hand when you picked it up next.

[Glock 23]

I think other than theft, would be burning the BeJayzus out of your hand when you picked it up next.

isn't that the seat belts job?

[Thane]

I suppose my interest in this story was more about the feasibility of 'cooking off' (pun intended) a round from the heat generated from the oven. There may be other variables involved in the circumstances in this specific story.
Theoretically, an oven is heated to around 350 - 400 degrees for practical cooking use.
In August, inside my vehicle, the heat may reach that point easily.
Is there a valid comparison there?

No, don't worry - your car won't reach cookie-baking temperatures, even in a Death Valley summer. I sincerely doubt that anything would "cook off."

That being said... Temperature CAN affect how the ammunition performs. Hot summer days are not kind to ammunition and firearms. If you have already "hot" ammo, the higher temperature can, in some cases, cause the ammo to produce undesirably high chamber pressures. Since the powder is already rather warm, it doesn't have as far to go temperature-wise in order to start burning. This makes the powder burn that much faster. In certain limited situations, this has the potential for producing a "KABOOM" instead of a "BANG."

I'm not gonna tell you to leave the truck gun at home during May-September, because when you need a gun, you need it. But do be aware of the role that temperature plays with regards to your ammunition.

[dukalmighty]

I use an oven timer to let me know when my biscuits are done