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Pinning down a number is difficult if not impossible. In any case, it is depressingly low. Thus, it is indeed unlikely that a willing and able defender did not have the opportunity to act.

I found this link of one person who left her revolver at home.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/el-pa ... er-pistol/

Maxwell wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:54 pm I had a coworker in CA ask me: Why didn't anyone fight back?

Not enough people carrying and/or willing to defend.

Crime Prevention Research Center, 2018, published data on the number of license/permit holders by state. Texas was below the national average.
https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-s ... inorities/

So, being generous, 7% of the adults in El Paso might have an LTC. Of that 7&+%, maybe half would be carrying. Of that 7%, maybe 1% have had any training. LTC does not count. http://blog.krtraining.com/beyond-the-o ... nt-part-1/

Pick a number of adults you think were in the Walmart and do the math. How many adults would have to be present for 1 LTC holder, with training, to be present? Way too many.

Liberty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:01 am I've got a good woman, she does have some mobility issues. I'm getting too old to break in another. I'll fight to the death to protect her, but the Run, Hide and Fight model seems pretty sane when you're with someone you love.

I don't like the odds of my 13rnd 9mm 2.5 inch barrel against an AK47.

My M&P M2.0 9mm 5inch carries 17+1 with 32 more on my belt. Don't like those odds either. For 34 years, my mission was to ride to the sound of the guns. No more. I'm retired and disabled. Unless directly confronted by the evil threat, my priority is to get my loved ones and myself home safely. If I can help others along the way, I will.

There is little cover from pistol fire inside a Walmart. There is even less cover from rifle fire.

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:01 pm Fox News reporting now there is an active shooting near Cielo Vista Mall area. Reports a possible 18 shot at the Walmart.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/el-paso-acti ... lmart-mall