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VMI77 wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

ShootDontTalk wrote:For that matter, who would actually DO anything, even if he decided to suspend the next election cycle and remain in office?

I'm really serious about that question. Exactly who would have the moxie to do anything at all?

I fully admit that this is a terrible opinion of my government, but I don't think I'm alone.

VMI77 and I have been having a sidebar conversation about this very sort of thing. He is more or less of the opinion that, in this scenario, the military would force Obama out and we'd go through a "restart". Normally, VMI77 and I are on the same wavelength. But I am pessimistic. Obama's administration has been very busy "retiring" old school field grade officers, and promoting those who are more compliant and amendable to the administration's social engineering goals. I would like to believe that the military could be depended on to restore the republic, and I certainly don't mean to insult anyone serving, but I am skeptical. Here's why.

Some illegal orders are just plain obvious. If a general orders soldiers under his command to simply eradicate all the children in an American town on the theory that nits grow to lice, it's a fair bet that most or all of those so ordered would refuse to carry out the order. Why? Because it is an obviously illegal order. But if a general commands troops under his command to arrest the President and take him into custody, that's a lot more vague. Who's the criminal? The general seeking to depose a President, or the President who is being deposed? Is the order legal, or illegal?

That's why I am skeptical that today's military would play a restorative role unless the necessity and the alternatives were so stark and clear that it was a no-brainer.

I think you over extrapolated my thoughts about military action. I wasn't talking about restoring the Republic; I don't see that happening. I was speaking in reference to the specific situation where the country is invaded by a foreign power and the administration orders the military to stand down and not resist. In the suspension of election scenario I agree with you....the military will do nothing. In fact I can't think of any other situation other than foreign invasion and what essentially amounts to clear executive treason where the military would remove the executive. It might not even happen then. I think it might happen with the current military in spite of the fact that Obama has purged the general ranks, but I also think the odds of such action occurring diminish with each year we continue on the current path. I don't think there is any serious invasion threat though either so it's probably irrelevant.