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surprise_i'm_armed wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:02 pm The video is very enlightening about how FAR the officer had to run from his cruiser to the bad guy.

He fired 14 shots from his AR. Can we assume a 20 round mag? If so, he would have had only 6 more AR rounds.
Then what? Would he have an extra AR mag on him, or would he have to go to his pistol? Most LEO's seem to carry 3 extra pistol mags,
and since he was close to the BG after the AR may have gone dry, he still could have put a bunch of lead on the problem child.

If there were multiple BG's, this would have gotten even more dicey for the officer.

SIA

eyedoc wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 11:28 am

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 3:27 pm

Rafe wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 2:45 pm

Paladin wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 12:27 pm Generally you want to stop the bleeding first. People can die from spurting arterial bleeds quicker than not breathing. Opening the airway is a good thing and if they don't breath on their own CPR might help, but it wouldn't be my first step.

Yeah. Manual chest-compression CPR ain't exactly the first thing you'd go to if someone has a sucking chest wound. Or, "Officer, the victim was clearly bleeding out from a femoral artery wound so I immediately started CPR."

Please never let Steven Spainhouer be anywhere near me if I get shot... And Spainhouer has been constantly and incessantly tweeting and posting about it since it happened. In fact, he's changed his Twitter profile to quote a tweet he launched yesterday about the event. And he's giving interviews anywhere and everywhere. You read his spiel, and it sounds like he personally laid hands on and tried to save every single individual who had been shot or even just fell down and sprained an ankle.

Sounds very much to me like a smarmy small-time politician who is doing everything in his power to maximize his 15 minutes of fame on the back of a tragedy.

Wonder if Mr. Spainhouer has any training in trauma first aid or tactical combat casualty care?

He is only your typical liberal lying to push his agenda. He was not there doing what he said he did.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/witness-who- ... ons-police

The Allen Police Department said Spainhouer's public comments caused them to conduct a second interview with him, after which they revealed he had given several incorrect statements.

"Mr. Spainhouer arrived between 3:44 and 3:52 p.m. and was not first on the scene, nor was he on the property while gunfire was occurring," the department said, adding that Spainhouer "did not perform Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation (CPR) or administer first aid" and "did not move a deceased mother who was covering a live child."

"As inaccurate reports can be prevalent in such situations, it is essential to confirm information before sharing it," the department said. "Please take note of this to prevent unintentional spreading of misinformation."

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 7:03 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 5:31 pm I am seeing many posts from folks who don't sound familiar at all what this "mall" is. I might suggest one try this link to google maps to get a better idea of the layout of this mall and ask yourself where one might find a plaque, sign or any other notice of a gun buster sign. Keep in mind that this is a very large and highly trafficked area of a very bustling and busy city. I would love for anyone to tell me exactly where this "sign" would be located. I live close enough to happily search it out. I sincerely want to know where it is located because I am not believing there is one. There are no less than 10 entrances to this mall, all off of VERY VERY busy multilane roads. You are lucky if you can get into this place without being hit by another car. If they have any signs at any of these entrances, it would be next to impossible to even notice them, much less hang out and read the fine details of the rules.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Allen ... %2F03l_x8f

I looked at the street views on Google Maps, but, most of the images were from 2018. The most recent (2021) view of the entrance off Stacy Rd shows only some towing enforced and no mall parking signs.... Nothing about guns, not even a gunbuster.

Scanning through the images of the storefronts, again from 2021, I didn't see any stores posted, but, I only scanned around quickly.

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:42 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:57 am I am left curious about something I have read in this thread. Some have made mention of the property this mall is located on is posted. I have been going into this mall for many years. Not often. Maybe a couple times a year or so. I never noticed any signs telling me it is posted. Heck, traffic around that place is nuts and simply being concerned with not getting in a wreck zipping into that parking area is distracting enough to make reading any extra signs beyond yield or stop is darn near impossible. Where are these signs forbidding one have a firearm in their car or on them located in this very large and complicated parking area?

They have a "no weapons" policy listed on their website. No signage to make it legally binding.

Paladin wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 9:22 am

2farnorth wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 7:20 am I saw a report last night that he had been discharged from the Army because of mental problems. Why was he able to purchase firearms?

Or become an armed security guard?

DocV wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 9:03 am

powerboatr wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 3:37 pm on the other site i read,
some were asking why or if the LTCS nearby did not run in to protect the others???

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Why would a LTC go to a mall known to be posted?

Excaliber wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 7:17 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:32 am I said it earlier in this thread and I will say it again. This guy stopped his car, hopped out with a rifle and immediately started shooting. We are talking seconds here in a very unexpected scenario. Had any of us been standing close enough to be effective with our hand guns, our chances of getting shot were far greater than our chances of stopping this guy. First your mind has to process a very crazy situation. Then you have to process draw, aim and fire. All while still stunned by what is occuring. I am sure I would have tried but am not delusional enough to think the odds are in my favor. There are situations, such as in the church shooting, that was ended by a miraculous head shot, where innocent people are going to die. No matter what we do and no matter how successful we are at doing it. This is definitely one of those situations.

Thank God for the Police Officer who ended this situation before more innocent life was lost. that officer is a true hero. I am very anxious to find out exactly how he approached and was able to end this with that head shot.

It is disgusting that the leftist inspired press is promoting the absolutely ludicrous claims of this guy being a Mexican white supremist!

In a situation like this, position is everything.

An LTC a few feet away and in front of the shooter has really bad odds.

On the other hand, shooters don't have 360 degree awareness. Someone behind, to the side, or at a diagonal just out of his peripheral vision would have had an excellent opportunity to stop a madman. Even better, anyone with a vehicle who drove down the parking lane his car was in could have taken him out with finality and relatively little risk.

These are the kinds of things best thought out and filed away ahead of time so the plan will be there when you need it.

carlson1 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:38 am Evil will wax worse and worse.