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by Excaliber
Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:33 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Man shot dead in Grand Hyatt - San Antonio
Replies: 29
Views: 6979

Re: Man shot dead in Grand Hyatt - San Antonio

nightmare wrote:
Jim Beaux wrote:Torres "charged at Neal and another woman." So Neal "drew a pistol and fired one shot at Torres, stopping him in the doorway."
John Neal is a woman?
Another way to read this is that there was a woman in the room with John Neal. It's actually hard to read otherwise because someone who is charging toward a doorway would not be charging toward anyone who was not either between him and the doorway or at or inside said doorway, and there is no indication that a woman was between the defender and the deceased.
by Excaliber
Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:41 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Man shot dead in Grand Hyatt - San Antonio
Replies: 29
Views: 6979

Re: Man shot dead in Grand Hyatt - San Antonio

rotor wrote:That hotel has a "firearms policy" which may be a problem for the shooter. It is on their website. Don't know if this has validity of a 30.06.
Firearms Policy
The safety and security of our guests and associates is of utmost importance to Hyatt. This policy is designed for the protection of our guests and associates, and pertains to the presence of firearms on hotel premises.

Hyatt recognizes that guests or visitors may legally possess firearms for a variety of legitimate purposes. This policy is intended to create a safe environment for all guests and visitors by providing appropriate guidance over the custody of firearms on our premises.

Hotel premises are private property. Guests or visitors of a Hyatt hotel who lawfully are permitted to possess a firearm, may bring such firearm onto hotel premises for storage purposes only. Any guest or visitor who is in possession of a firearm on hotel premises is personally responsible for abiding by all applicable federal, state and local laws with respect to firearms, in the jurisdiction where the hotel is located and ensuring that the firearm is:
· unloaded;
· secured in a locked, hard-sided firearm container provided by the guest; and
· securely safeguarded at all times in a guest room (or personal vehicle), except when transporting the firearm into or out of the hotel.

Guests who fail to abide by this policy may be asked to leave the hotel premises. A blanket exception to the restrictions described in this policy statement applies only to law enforcement officers and designated military personnel, who are on-duty and required to carry firearms in the performance of their duties. No exemption to this policy is allowed for private persons, even those licensed and permitted to carry a firearm, and/or where applicable, to conceal-carry a firearm.
Policies like this are designed to protect the hotel from liability rather than actually provide safety for guests. If a firearm is misused, they can say the guest broke the rule and whatever happened isn't their fault. They also no doubt know that their rule doesn't have the force of law so folks don't have to comply with it as long as they're discreet. This means they keep the business of lawful firearm owners.

The rule is much like Target's "respectful request" that people not bring guns into their stores.

The takeaway I see is: Concealed is concealed, and carry on.

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