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by Paladin
Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Teens died about 87 and 337 feet from man who said he fired in self-defense
Replies: 30
Views: 8588

Re: Teens died about 87 and 337 feet from man who said he fired in self-defense

PriestTheRunner wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:05 pm
Paladin wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:01 pm While the deceased were criminals apparently trying to do a burglary, calling the shooting self-defense is absurd. I think "vigilante justice" is a far more fitting term. And that sort justice is illegal.
Legal in Texas. The "Self-Defense" argument for the closer one is possible... but 100 yards away...?
SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY.

A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
Yeah, with Matthew McMillen shot in the back 337 feet away, even under Texas Defense of Property, among other things Lawrence would need to show that McMillen had committed burglary or was trying to escape with property. Did McMillen have stolen property on him? Did Lawrence even know at the time about the neighbor's break-in?

Michigan legal defense of property(fleeing felon) is what is at issue and is a pretty thin defense in this case.
by Paladin
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Teens died about 87 and 337 feet from man who said he fired in self-defense
Replies: 30
Views: 8588

Re: Teens died about 87 and 337 feet from man who said he fired in self-defense

While the deceased were criminals apparently trying to do a burglary, calling the shooting self-defense is absurd. I think "vigilante justice" is a far more fitting term. And that sort justice is illegal.

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