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I've never been big on the kind of self defeating attitude that seems to be going on in that other forum. It sounds like they would rather by carried by six than do what's right and be prepared to justify their actions.

Being prepared means that you are aware of your environment and have taken steps to avoid unnecessary violence. I don't ever plan on using my guns for violence, but they are there if everything else fails the situation requires it. If everything else fails and the situation requires it, sabotaging myself because I'm scared of my own shadow is about the worst thing I could do.

There's a lot bigger things most people should be worried about. Like gun safety, being able to consistently hit what you aim at, knowing how to safely and effectively use a concealment holster, understanding and using cover, etc... Every jury is different, but learning the relevant the law is also one of the most valuable aspects of training.