Special Session -- 2013

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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by paperchunker » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:32 pm

This was the last chance for Perry and Dewhurst in my book. It is time to really get behind Greg Abbott for Governor and Jerry Patterson for Lt. Governor in 2014.
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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by AEA » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:46 pm

Republican majority and the State being led by the Democrats? What's gonna happen when them New Yorkers get here? :eek6 :banghead:

Things are really looking bad for Texas as far as I can see. :frown5:
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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by Salty1 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:48 pm

Is anybody really surprised? Same thing happens every session, they throw us a bone here and there and leave bills that will mwke a statement on the back burner afraid they are too hot to touch politically........... we should be used to this by now
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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by Panda » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:58 pm

IlliniBill wrote:I just got this e-mail from the NRA-ILA:

"While transportation, pro-life and juvenile justice issues have been added to the call for the current special session, the NRA has been informed that important Second Amendment issues such as campus carry will NOT be included. While Governor Rick Perry (R) has the authority to add subjects to the call, he does so with input from the Lieutenant Governor (who presides over the state Senate) and the Speaker of the House. Please express your dissatisfaction with the following officials:"
I will. Every time they run for office I iwill tell everyone who will listen how these politicians REALLY feel about gun rights for tax paying Texans.

My neighbor said it best. Perry is all hat and no cattle.


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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by 2firfun50 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:13 pm

Panda wrote:
IlliniBill wrote:I just got this e-mail from the NRA-ILA:

"While transportation, pro-life and juvenile justice issues have been added to the call for the current special session, the NRA has been informed that important Second Amendment issues such as campus carry will NOT be included. While Governor Rick Perry (R) has the authority to add subjects to the call, he does so with input from the Lieutenant Governor (who presides over the state Senate) and the Speaker of the House. Please express your dissatisfaction with the following officials:"
I will. Every time they run for office I iwill tell everyone who will listen how these politicians REALLY feel about gun rights for tax paying Texans.

My neighbor said it best. Perry is all hat and no cattle.
Saw a Dallas (R) state rep on news last night getting an award from DPD thanking him for allowing drone spying. This state is full of RINOs.


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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by JKTex » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:40 pm

While it's beyond disappointing, people still seem to misplace blame. If Perry knows something has no chance at all, why waist a ton of taxpayer money and resources adding it?
While transportation, pro-life and juvenile justice issues have been added to the call for the current special session, the NRA has been informed that important Second Amendment issues such as campus carry will NOT be included. While Governor Rick Perry (R) has the authority to add subjects to the call, he does so with input from the Lieutenant Governor (who presides over the state Senate) and the Speaker of the House. Please express your dissatisfaction with the following officials:
Between Dewhurst and Straus it seems they can pretty much dictate what happens. Of course let all 3 know how you feel, but Perry can't be given all the blame.


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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by artx » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:57 pm

You are still calling or faxing right? I will be when I get home tonight.


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Post by 2firfun50 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:02 pm

I just got off the phone with the Governor's office. The lady I spoke with has no knowledge of where the NRA got this information. She was also unaware of any statements Perry has made indicating that gun bills would not be added to the special session. I think I'll wait for something offical before getting too worked up.


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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by Kiowa Scout » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:03 pm

I sent emails to Gov. Perry, Lt. Gov. Dewhurst and SOH Straus expressing my dis-satisfaction with the lack of support on our keys issues in this special session. I feel better by telling them my feelings, if nothing else.
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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by Beiruty » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:33 pm

Honorable Lt. Governor David Dewhurst,

I am really disappointed to learn that no Pro-gun laws would be introduced in the special session call. I, as millions of Texans, was waiting to hear that the Texan legislators would work hard and introduce pro-gun bills to extend our 2nd Amendment rights wherever we are.

I am certain that you are aware that the very often an active shooter would go on shooting spree killing innocent disarmed citizens in so called Gun-Free zones.

Why in the world we would allow such incidents to happen? Gun Laws would only disarm law-abiding citizen and said laws are only to ignored by those who are committed to do mass murder.

Such gun-free zones are only the easy killing fields. Letting citizen disarmed would only make them easier to kill.

Please I would like to express my dissatisfaction with new pro-gun being introduced in the special session.

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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by 2firfun50 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:49 pm

2firfun50 wrote:I just got off the phone with the Governor's office. The lady I spoke with has no knowledge of where the NRA got this information. She was also unaware of any statements Perry has made indicating that gun bills would not be added to the special session. I think I'll wait for something offical before getting too worked up.
I focused my inputs on the issue of cities improperly posting signs to restrict CHLs' from carrying in government buildings. Perry has said repeatedly he would only add to the call with things likely to pass. I spoke about how this bill would have passed without the objectionable amendments. I informed her it had been refiled as SB16 and made no attempt to recommend an action that would throw the session wide open for gun bills. We might have some success with a focused approach, but I believe campus carry and open carry is dead and will not be added.


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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by e-bil » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:41 pm

Abortion bans and gun expansion in a special session? That's several careers worth of political capital right there. Honestly it's not surprising.


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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by Bladed » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:57 pm

2firfun50 wrote:I just got off the phone with the Governor's office. The lady I spoke with has no knowledge of where the NRA got this information. She was also unaware of any statements Perry has made indicating that gun bills would not be added to the special session. I think I'll wait for something offical before getting too worked up.
It's a pretty safe bet that NRA/TSRA know what they're talking about. They're not getting their information from press releases or official announcements; they're talking to people on the inside.


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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by 2firfun50 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:45 pm

Bladed wrote:
2firfun50 wrote:I just got off the phone with the Governor's office. The lady I spoke with has no knowledge of where the NRA got this information. She was also unaware of any statements Perry has made indicating that gun bills would not be added to the special session. I think I'll wait for something offical before getting too worked up.
It's a pretty safe bet that NRA/TSRA know what they're talking about. They're not getting their information from press releases or official announcements; they're talking to people on the inside.
Thats why I kept my focus on the "sign" bill, now SB16. That one could be passed and sent to the governor in a few hrs. Campus Carry is going nowhere without trickery in the Senate to get around the 2/3 rule. It might not be a good idea to run over democrats from large areas with colleges. That could really come back to bite. So it is a waste of time and money this session. Open Carry died a quick and early death. Another waste of money.

SB16 (old HB508) was the only gun bill that was going to pass normally until the non germain amendments were presented. A clean bill should pass both houses quickly. This bill will have the most benefit for more CHL holders with little political risk.

Just my thoughts.


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Re: Special Session -- 2013

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Post by Bladed » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:03 pm

2firfun50 wrote:
Bladed wrote:
2firfun50 wrote:I just got off the phone with the Governor's office. The lady I spoke with has no knowledge of where the NRA got this information. She was also unaware of any statements Perry has made indicating that gun bills would not be added to the special session. I think I'll wait for something offical before getting too worked up.
It's a pretty safe bet that NRA/TSRA know what they're talking about. They're not getting their information from press releases or official announcements; they're talking to people on the inside.
Thats why I kept my focus on the "sign" bill, now SB16. That one could be passed and sent to the governor in a few hrs. Campus Carry is going nowhere without trickery in the Senate to get around the 2/3 rule. It might not be a good idea to run over democrats from large areas with colleges. That could really come back to bite. So it is a waste of time and money this session. Open Carry died a quick and early death. Another waste of money.

SB16 (old HB508) was the only gun bill that was going to pass normally until the non germain amendments were presented. A clean bill should pass both houses quickly. This bill will have the most benefit for more CHL holders with little political risk.

Just my thoughts.
I agree that Perry could add this bill without incurring much negative publicity and get it passed in relatively short order.

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