First Time to Pull My Gun

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Re: First Time to Pull My Gun

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Post by TLynnHughes » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:41 pm

I don't have any issues with shooting a dog that attacks, but holy cow, I'm not absolutely certain I could hit the darned thing and I'm a reasonably ok shooter. It's not going to sit still with an X on its head and at night even! Bringing up events like this in the forum sure get a person to thinking. I'm so glad everything turned out ok for you and your dog.

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Re: First Time to Pull My Gun

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Post by quidni » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:40 pm

Tireshred wrote:I carry a flashlight in one hand and the dog leash in the other, I don't have another hand for a club.
A 3 D-cell or 4 D-cell MagLite can serve double duty as both flashlight and club, if need be. It will also survive being dropped or thrown, if you need to free a hand for any reason.

As mentioned, OC spray can be a very effective deterrent if you can hit the dog where he's not protected by fur, i.e. nose leather, eyes, mouth, inside of ears.

Glad it turned out OK for you and your dog. You handled it well, IMO.
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Post by suthdj » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:07 pm

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Tireshred wrote:I carry a flashlight in one hand and the dog leash in the other, I don't have another hand for a club.
A 3 D-cell or 4 D-cell MagLite can serve double duty as both flashlight and club, if need be. It will also survive being dropped or thrown, if you need to free a hand for any reason.
I saw what had to be a 6-12 Dcell Maglite style in a truck stop up in Wisconsin wanted to buy it so bad but was $$$$$$ the thing was around 2-3 feet long would have made for one heck of a club.
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Post by TheArmedFarmer » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:41 pm

Take it from me, shooting and killing a dog is grim work and you never feel good about it. It completely ruins your day and you still feel rotten for several days afterward. I adore dogs and I hate it that some dogs are unfortunate enough to be owned by owners who mistreat them and/or let them run at large, wreaking havoc wherever they go. :banghead:

The civil suit aspect is something that I'd be very concerned about. As for protecting your livestock, Texas law grants immunity against civil suit (thankfully). Such immunity is NOT given in the case of defence of humans or other property, AFAIK. Doesn't make sense to me, but that's the law.
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Post by pdubyoo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:19 pm

quidni wrote:A 3 D-cell or 4 D-cell MagLite can serve double duty as both flashlight and club, if need be. It will also survive being dropped or thrown, if you need to free a hand for any reason.
:iagree: I had to use my 3 D-cell Maglite on a dog's head last year. I was walking my dog, and an agressive mutt (approx. 60-70lbs) came from nowhere and confronted me and my dog. It was in front of me, and was lunging at my dog's head like it was trying to get a neck bite. Without really thinking, I beaned it right on the top of the head. It was a solid blow, and about knocked it out. It stumbled for a few seconds, then slowly walked away. I looked around to see if the dog's owner was around, but nothing. My heart was pounding really hard, and my dog was giddy. We walked home slowly to give me a chance to calm down, but my chest was still pounding when I got home. I was armed, but since the flashlight did the job, I didn't give a second thought to my gun.

I felt so bad about hitting the dog so hard that I got onto our neighborhood blog site and posted what happened, but nobody ever responded, so I guess it was either a stray, or the owner didn't read the blog...or didn't care.

I told a Constable's Deputy about it later at a neighborhood watch meeting, and he said that I could have shot it, then smiled and said that he was glad I didn't...it saved him from writing a report.
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Re: First Time to Pull My Gun

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Post by Tireshred » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:53 am

Wow, great story pdubyoo, I haven't used a Maglite in years since the high intensity stuff came out in really small packages, but I may have to rethink that even though I get more light from them (we're plagued with skunks and I use it to scan for them even though my dog seems immune to the spray :???: ) I did get a Kimber Pepper Blaster and carry it now, thankfully haven't needed it.

I'm glad you or your dog didn't get hurt too.
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Post by Mithras61 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:46 pm

Tireshred wrote:Wow, great story pdubyoo, I haven't used a Maglite in years since the high intensity stuff came out in really small packages, but I may have to rethink that even though I get more light from them (we're plagued with skunks and I use it to scan for them even though my dog seems immune to the spray :???: ) I did get a Kimber Pepper Blaster and carry it now, thankfully haven't needed it.

I'm glad you or your dog didn't get hurt too.
The 6 D-cell Maglite is available at Amazon for about $27. The high output lamp for it (it comes with a standard lamp) is about $3, and throws out over 200 lumens.

May have to get me one of those... :anamatedbanana

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Re: First Time to Pull My Gun

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Post by blackdog8200 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:03 pm

suthdj wrote:
quidni wrote:
Tireshred wrote:I carry a flashlight in one hand and the dog leash in the other, I don't have another hand for a club.
A 3 D-cell or 4 D-cell MagLite can serve double duty as both flashlight and club, if need be. It will also survive being dropped or thrown, if you need to free a hand for any reason.
I saw what had to be a 6-12 Dcell Maglite style in a truck stop up in Wisconsin wanted to buy it so bad but was $$$$$$ the thing was around 2-3 feet long would have made for one heck of a club.

Best thing about the flashlight is that it is not a "club" in the illegal weapon sense.....I keep one in the door of my truck for just that reason.

It has always bothered me with a CHL I can carry and use a handgun (Read deadly force here) in my defense yet if I carry the police ASP Baton, I am breaking the law. As a cyclist, dogs and drunks always give me concern. I would like to have the option to use less lethal force if possible.

The Idea of the pitbull going after me or one of my dogs may very well end up with the use of my gun (one of the reasons I carry) but in the case of the OP here, a concealable baton could be the first line of defense and possibly keep from using my gun on a residential street....The dog might also recognize the "stick" and back off as well.
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Re: First Time to Pull My Gun

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Post by Abraham » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:08 pm

Don't try to club an attacking dog while riding your bicycle - you'll very likely lose control of your bike, crash, and then...

How do I know this?

I've done it more than once...fortunately I didn't crash, but came this close...wobbling all over the road and finally recovered. If a car had been anywhere in my vicinity I'd been toast.

That's when I went to pepper/OC spray for attacking dogs.

Plus, the spray doesn't injure the dog, just causes massive, temporary pain and perhaps the dog will reconsider attacking any other cyclist in his future and you don't have to feel guilty for injuring or killing the dog or face a legal problem.


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Re: First Time to Pull My Gun

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Post by amber » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:18 pm

Take polo lessons.

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Post by Ashlar » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:50 am

blackdog8200 wrote:It has always bothered me with a CHL I can carry and use a handgun (Read deadly force here) in my defense yet if I carry the police ASP Baton, I am breaking the law.
Agreed. I wish ours were like Florida, where it's a concealed weapons license. Batons, long knives, saps, blackjacks- all are legal there with their analog of our CHL.

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Post by marksiwel » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:55 am

Ashlar wrote:
blackdog8200 wrote:It has always bothered me with a CHL I can carry and use a handgun (Read deadly force here) in my defense yet if I carry the police ASP Baton, I am breaking the law.
Agreed. I wish ours were like Florida, where it's a concealed weapons license. Batons, long knives, saps, blackjacks- all are legal there with their analog of our CHL.
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Post by lrb111 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:12 am

amber wrote:Take polo lessons.
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Re: First Time to Pull My Gun

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Post by tqu9047 » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:36 pm

My dad used to t get attacked while riding his bike to work. He just filled up a squirtgun with ammonia. Worked every time. These were not wild dogs that attacked, but back in the day nobody kept their dogs in. He didn't want to hurt the dogs or kill them. Once they got sprayed, they would stop at the curb when they saw it was him riding by. :anamatedbanana

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Post by rmoraes » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:59 pm

Tireshred wrote: A 3 D-cell or 4 D-cell MagLite can serve double duty as both flashlight and club, if need be. It will also survive being dropped or thrown, if you need to free a hand for any reason.

Glad it turned out OK for you and your dog. You handled it well, IMO.
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