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H.E.B. and their reason for no open carry

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Post by rvsullivan » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:00 pm

Just made a call to H.E.B. corporate to ask about the 30.07 postings in their stores. The representative at Customer Relations first told me they were a privately held company and could make any decision they wished about open carry. I agreed with her and explained they were affecting licensed carry holders. She then switched over to they were following TABC rules in that they sold alcohol and were prohibited by law from allowing open carry. When I disputed that and told her all her stores were Blue licensed she hung up on me!! :banghead:


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Post by viking1000 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:22 pm

I always go back to that female reporter trying to sign up in DC to get a CHL permit and the Clerk was giving her a hard time and she said to him, what about my second amendment rights ???
The clerks answer was , Oh, the second amendment was only for when the British were coming ..

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Post by ScottDLS » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:28 pm

rvsullivan wrote:Just made a call to H.E.B. corporate to ask about the 30.07 postings in their stores. The representative at Customer Relations first told me they were a privately held company and could make any decision they wished about open carry. I agreed with her and explained they were affecting licensed carry holders. She then switched over to they were following TABC rules in that they sold alcohol and were prohibited by law from allowing open carry. When I disputed that and told her all her stores were Blue licensed she hung up on me!! :banghead:
Oh goody! All publicly held companies that are listed on a US exchange can't make ANY decision about open or concealed carry. I foresee a flurry of LBO's and hedge fund takeovers after the first of the year. :roll:
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Post by Pariah3j » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:30 pm

rvsullivan wrote:Just made a call to H.E.B. corporate to ask about the 30.07 postings in their stores. The representative at Customer Relations first told me they were a privately held company and could make any decision they wished about open carry. I agreed with her and explained they were affecting licensed carry holders. She then switched over to they were following TABC rules in that they sold alcohol and were prohibited by law from allowing open carry. When I disputed that and told her all her stores were Blue licensed she hung up on me!! :banghead:
This right here... its the exact reason I probably won't be frequenting any HEBs anytime soon. Yes they have the right to post them, but I find it a slap in the face to the most law abiding citizens of the state. And they are even flippant about why they are doing it. If every pro 2A red blooded American would stop shopping at HEB because of it, I wonder how long till they were running specials for anyone who open carried into the store.
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Post by LSUTiger » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:36 pm

I will miss their meat and deli department. :cryin
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Post by ralewis » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:02 pm

HEB's decision to post 30.07 doesn't impact one's ability to carry a handgun in their stores. I was there today with my concealed handgun, and I'll be there this weekend with my concealed handgun I'm sure.

HEB I'm near is the Lakeline HEB in North Austin near Cedar Park. Love the store, respect their decision to post 30.07, and appreciate that they don't post 30.06

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Post by Jago668 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:07 pm

Pariah3j wrote:
rvsullivan wrote:Just made a call to H.E.B. corporate to ask about the 30.07 postings in their stores. The representative at Customer Relations first told me they were a privately held company and could make any decision they wished about open carry. I agreed with her and explained they were affecting licensed carry holders. She then switched over to they were following TABC rules in that they sold alcohol and were prohibited by law from allowing open carry. When I disputed that and told her all her stores were Blue licensed she hung up on me!! :banghead:
This right here... its the exact reason I probably won't be frequenting any HEBs anytime soon. Yes they have the right to post them, but I find it a slap in the face to the most law abiding citizens of the state. And they are even flippant about why they are doing it. If every pro 2A red blooded American would stop shopping at HEB because of it, I wonder how long till they were running specials for anyone who open carried into the store.
I know, I know - it ain't going to happen, but a man can dream can't he ?
If you think it is redblooded pro 2A Americans keeping the company afloat. Go in there on a day when there is a rumor INS is in town doing roundups. There will be almost no shoppers, and like 3 employees. Happened where I grew up, and that was central Texas not South Texas.
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Post by oohrah » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:13 pm

I CCed in my HEB today and it is not yet posted 30.07. I wili probably have a chance to check again tomorrow.
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Post by mojo84 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:33 pm

Jago668 wrote:
Pariah3j wrote:
rvsullivan wrote:Just made a call to H.E.B. corporate to ask about the 30.07 postings in their stores. The representative at Customer Relations first told me they were a privately held company and could make any decision they wished about open carry. I agreed with her and explained they were affecting licensed carry holders. She then switched over to they were following TABC rules in that they sold alcohol and were prohibited by law from allowing open carry. When I disputed that and told her all her stores were Blue licensed she hung up on me!! :banghead:
This right here... its the exact reason I probably won't be frequenting any HEBs anytime soon. Yes they have the right to post them, but I find it a slap in the face to the most law abiding citizens of the state. And they are even flippant about why they are doing it. If every pro 2A red blooded American would stop shopping at HEB because of it, I wonder how long till they were running specials for anyone who open carried into the store.
I know, I know - it ain't going to happen, but a man can dream can't he ?
If you think it is redblooded pro 2A Americans keeping the company afloat. Go in there on a day when there is a rumor INS is in town doing roundups. There will be almost no shoppers, and like 3 employees. Happened where I grew up, and that was central Texas not South Texas.

:headscratch. I call bull on this.


I also contend there aren't enough staunch OC enthusiasts to make a difference to HEB if they stopped shopping there.
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Post by Jago668 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:46 pm

You can call bull all you want, but I've seen it with my own eyes.
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Post by Abraham » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:49 pm

mojo84 posted: "I also contend there aren't enough staunch OC enthusiasts to make a difference to HEB if they stopped shopping there."

You know speaking this truth will get the more rabid OCers caterwauling about blah, constitution, blah, natural right, blah, take my marbles and go home, blah, blah, blah...

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Post by LSUTiger » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:53 pm

I wonder if anyone on the forum owns stock in HEB?
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Post by mojo84 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:55 pm

Jago668 wrote:You can call bull all you want, but I've seen it with my own eyes.

I bet you are the only one then. I can't imagine the rumor that INS is rounding up illegals is what actually caused low turnout at any HEB in the state.
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Post by mojo84 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:56 pm

LSUTiger wrote:I wonder if anyone on the forum owns stock in HEB?

Not sure who may own stock in HEB since it is privately owned. It is my understanding it is a closely held company.
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Post by winters » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:57 pm

I rarely shop at HEB. From what I have seen I doubt they are worried about losing business from gun people. I could say plenty of things I have seen at their stores and I would probably be banned over it.

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