Letter to Eyemasters regarding 30.06 sign

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Re: Letter to Eyemasters regarding 30.06 sign

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I wouldnt cut the letter down too short. Your first is a bit long, but i like it.

Nothing wrong with a lengthy letter if you stick to the facts. I think mentioning WHY you wont shop there again, as well as the steps you have taken to tell OTHERS about it will definitely make any Manager wince.

I never like to hear about how a guest had a bad experience in my hotel, i dont want that 1 person posting their bad experience on any web board (google, tripadvisor, etc).

Letting management know that you have spread the word about their sign to the 300k+ CHL holders and on various websites is good.
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seamusTX wrote:I think that a person has to take a realistic approach. Telling a business, "We hate you and we're not going to spend money with you," does not work.

Disney World still has "gay days," don't they? Yep.
Is that an official Disney event? Doesn't look like it's on the Disney calendar, so it's no different from us all deciding to go to Taco Bell and declare CHLForum Day. So, you're actually supporting my argument by pointing out that Disney isn't willing to kick out however many gays show up for that event.

For that matter, if EyeMasters wants to have one day a year designated no-carry, I won't mind too much.
It is a "quasi official" day at Disney. Just like with 6-Flags or any of the other theme parks, a representative of some group approaches the park management and says "have you thought about having x-day?" the board decides and gets back with that person who then lines up lecturers and booths for that theme.... both the individual and the park management work together on it. For instance, 6-Flags has a "church of Christ day" and a "home school day" etc. And, those in that group are given discounts on their tickets. At 6-Flags at least, the park is even closed to the general public until 5:00. Don't remember on Disney World. HEY! maybe we can get "Concealed Carry Day!" :smilelol5:
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wgoforth wrote:And, those in that group are given discounts on their tickets. At 6-Flags at least, the park is even closed to the general public until 5:00. Don't remember on Disney World.
If that was the case, wouldn't it make sense for Disney to have it on their official event calendar? I know I'd be mad if I went all the way to Orlando and couldn't because I couldn't prove...wait a minute...that's not exactly a field on the driver's license...how would they prove, um, that, to get a discount?
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KD5NRH wrote:
wgoforth wrote:And, those in that group are given discounts on their tickets. At 6-Flags at least, the park is even closed to the general public until 5:00. Don't remember on Disney World.
If that was the case, wouldn't it make sense for Disney to have it on their official event calendar? I know I'd be mad if I went all the way to Orlando and couldn't because I couldn't prove...wait a minute...that's not exactly a field on the driver's license...how would they prove, um, that, to get a discount?
LOL, it is generally only advertised among the groups/magazines/forums of the said event. I have had experience with the Home School Day at 6 Flags for example... it is advertised among home school forums, magazines, etc.. you buy your tickets in advance through the dept listed in the advertisements. As with the homeschool groups, I KNOW there were non homeschoolers that came, but the park didn't care... they still had paying customers. I am looking at the 6-Flags website now, and although there are 2 Homeschool Days a year (one in the spring and one in the fall) and a "church of Christ day" as well...none of those are listed on the calendar.
So these are events approved of by the park, but not necessarily originated by the park...if that makes sense. It is requested by a group, but park gives it the approval/disapproval.
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mrvmax wrote:Avoid it altogether and go to http://www.framesdirect.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; in Houston. Their showroom is small, but they can get just about any frame you want at a low price. And, they have no 30.06 sign (I was just there last week).
or go to River Oaks Vision, Dr.Bruce Krutsinger on 1470 West Gray. I had a checkup about 6 months ago ( very through ) and he and I got into Guns and Government. He is one of us :thumbs2: :fire
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I'm sorry I brought up the Disney "gay days." I should have known better.

Please post when Eyemasters puts up their "welcome CHL" signs.

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seamusTX wrote:I'm sorry I brought up the Disney "gay days." I should have known better.

Please post when Eyemasters puts up their "welcome CHL" signs.

- Jim
lol, sorry to have done some hijacking. You had a valid point and wanted to clarify a misunderstanding about the nature of the special days at theme parks. Still think we ought to ask 6-Flags if they would allow "Conceal Carry Day" at the park just to see what they would say! :smilelol5:
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Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I will write them a letter. We as CHL and RKBA MUST stick together and make as big a ruckus as possible whenever our rights are stepped on. If we don't do so, then we'll end up like Australia.

Those of you who are asleep at the wheel and think, "Oh, it couldn't happen here. You're just being a 'sky is falling' chicken little," are the real culprits who would allow us to be another Australia. Guns were banned in Australia because people did nothing and just lay around saying that "it couldn't happen here." Yet, a conservative country that had a gun culture with many who lived in the outback who had a genuine NEED for firearms watched as their rights were taken away. These evil Australian legislators pounced right after a couple of high profile crazies shot up people on a rampage. If you've been watching the news lately, you'll know that there have been some of these incidents happening lately. Although these tragedies are statistical anomalies, the media will have most sheeple believe that guns caused these tragedies. What will be Obama's response? What do you think will be next on his list of stuff to do after the health care thing has concluded?

The right to defend yourself from bodily harm is a basic human right. That is why it is in our constitution. That is why we must protest vigorously whenever it is threatened.

Although I don't live in Austin, I am a customer of Eyemasters and I do occasionally visit Austin, so I'm writing a letter to them. I suggest that you do too before it's too late and we turn into another Australia.

I invite you to WAKE UP PEOPLE. The gun banning has already started. What types of guns do gun banning liberals target first when they ban guns? It's the "saturday night specials" or the pocket pistols such as 380 cal handguns. When was the last time you saw a box of 380 ammo at your local sporting goods store? How affordable is ammo these days? Making ammo unaffordable is the best way to keep guns out of the "unwashed masses". Even in the most draconian gun ban societies, there are special loopholes allowing the rich and powerful to own guns. In China, the richest man in China Lee Ka Shing was given a title of "honorary gung on (policeman)" so that he could carry a gun even though there is a death penalty if you are caught with a gun in China. In Japan, if you can afford to take 12 weekdays off from work to take an expensive full day shooting class (12 monthly classes a year) at the local police station, you may own an overpriced shotgun. At the last Dallas gun show, a box of 20 .380 ammo costs $45. At my local range, they charged $25 for a box of 380 ammo but did not allow you to take it home. You have to shoot ALL of the ammo at the range or leave it behind. Nothing was legislated. All Obama had to do was privately threaten all ammo manufacturers that he will cancel US Govt Ammo contracts if they don't reduce their production of 380 ammo. For manufacturers that do not have US govt contracts, he can file expensive to defend nuisance lawsuits against the manufacturers if they don't comply. Voila! "saturday night specials" are kept out of the hands of the unwashed masses in Amerika without any legislation! I'm not saying that's what Obama did, but I am saying that this is possible and most probable. Otherwise, how can you explain the availability of 9mm but absence of 380 ammo? Stupid ammo hoarders can only explain the absence of ammo in general, but not the absence of ammo only of a particular caliber. What will Obama do next to keep guns out of the hands of the "unwashed masses"?

We must protest vigorously and convert as many people to our side as possible. I am applying to join a private range that allows members to invite guests to shoot there free of charge. Unfortunately, this range has a 2 year waiting list. I am shopping for a 22 caliber glock conversion kit and a 22 caliber armscor mak22 (22 cal ak47) to teach friends and family how to shoot and hopefully convert more people to our side. I'd like to be an ambassador of sorts to the minority community in the DFW area since most immigrant minorities are firearms averse due to a total lack of a shooting sports culture in their home countries. To many immigrants, liberty and freedom are sought after but not very well understood. It is up to us to educate them so that we may count on their vote at the next election. So far, I've converted 2 liberal female friends to join us in the RKBA struggle. One of these flaming liberal friends even admitted that Obama hasn't exactly lived up to his hype so she's disappointed in him. She's not exactly a conservative Republican yet, but I'm still working on her. How many have you converted? Ask not what the NRA can do for you, but what you can do for liberty in America. Hearts and minds are won one at a time by your interactions with your fellow man (or woman). You might be surprised to find that it all starts with YOU.

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I understand your concern, but the place for effort it is in the PRIMARY elections and donating time and money to candidates that are pro-RKBA. The general election is too late.

Whether the management of Eyemasters or any other privately owned company knows or cares is irrelevant. I already suggested going to TSO.

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drjoker wrote:....I'm not saying that's what Obama did, but I am saying that this is possible and most probable. Otherwise, how can you explain the availability of 9mm but absence of 380 ammo? Stupid ammo hoarders can only explain the absence of ammo in general, but not the absence of ammo only of a particular caliber. What will Obama do next to keep guns out of the hands of the "unwashed masses"?

I heard the president of Hornady explain the shortage of the 380 on GunTalk Radio. He said that 380 had been one of the least used calibers until the LCP came out. Typically, they made ONE batch of 380 ammo a year. Then the LCP came out, and it skyrocketed. You cannot just change out your equipment in mid-run of other calibers, so that left them 6 months behind in orders. Those who wanted an LCP and couldn't find them settled for the Kel Tec P3AT that had been out for years, so that now the sale of the P3AT's skyrocketed. Then came the Obama administration so that on top of it being in short supply, you had hording on top of that. Now you have the Taurus TCP that has come out in recent months adding even more demand. As to a box of 20 for $45....it's called gouging pure and simple. Unless those are silver bullets to kill the wolfman, there is no other excuse. I just bought a box of 50 fmj Monarch in the 380 at Academy in Abilene this last Thurs for $14.95. I'm not seeing it in the short supply here as bad as I am hearing from other places. The salesman at Academy said that gun show dealers are coming in and buying theirs up and reselling them for triple the price at gun shows.
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The clerk at the Academy in Dallas said that he had only 3 shipments of 380 ammo in the last 9 months. How come your Abilene Academy is so blessed?
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No idea bro...when they are out, I can usually get it at the indoor range in Abilene. Even our little Weakley Watson hardware has it at a price ($49 for 100 WWB). We are out of the way enough that it may be that there are less buyers snatching it up for gouging...or maybe we are supplied by another districts warehouse. The Academy here was limiting it to one box per person though.
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KD5NRH wrote:
seamusTX wrote:Over 6,000 members, which is a whopping 0.03% of the population of the entire state.
Name a business that wouldn't think twice about turning away 6,000 potential customers.
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seamusTX wrote:
I've seen quite a few widely publicized boycotts that had no effect.

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Liberty wrote:Sometimes we succeed Taco Cabana comes to mind.
I mentioned Taco Cabana. I think what got to them was not a boycott, per se, but getting trashed far and wide on the internets.

But who knows?

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