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Well written.
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Some of the comments are asinine and immature. I liked the one who has the "CHL" and doesn't have a gun. Seriously, Shannon Watts would be proud of that diatribe.

The fact that CHL has been here in Texas for 20 years is lost on them. Also lost on them is that (if my math is correct) 1 in 20 adults conceal carry, this means that on any given day, more likely than not, they would come into contact with a CHL holder who is carrying.
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One of the commenter's response really bugs me.

She says she would leave immediately if she knew of a place where guns were allowed, yet I'm willing to be she stands feet from someone with a gun daily. The reason she hasn't left from a place where guns are allowed is because the licensed carrier hasn't done anything to cause her any concern. Thats been the case for 20 years. I've carried for 5 and I dont believe anything I've done with my protection tucked safely in my waistband has cause anyone to stray from their daily activity. I mean, its Schrödinger's gun, the mere observation changes this lady's state of mind.

Also, why are people led to believe that a chl class is a firearms training class? You are expected to prove handgun proficiency during the class, its not for people who have never handled a firearm before. Sure, people who have never handled a gun have passed the class, but guess what, thats because guns dont hurt people in their own. Firearm safety rules are taught and followed, people go home with an accomplishment - no one gets hurt because we are all there to prove we can follow rules.

Another commenter says she doesn't want to have to worry about seeing someone open carry in class and not knowing their intention until class is over. Well what does she think about Joe criminal that has a gun in his backpack that she cant see?

The logic of some arguments dont exist, and I can't understand it.
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cprems wrote:Some of the comments are asinine and immature.
If you think those are bad, you should check out the comments on the Texas Tribune Facebook page. SCC posted a screen capture on their Facebook page.
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I read most of the comments. They're stuck on stupid!

They cannot fathom that anyone under the age of 21 (with the exception of active duty or honorably discharged Military personnel, I believe) cannot carry a weapon without going through the CHL process.

They even threw out some old and out dated recycled feel good words like "Rivers of blood," "Econo-corral" and my favorite...."Wild West"... There seems to be a deliberate disconnect from reality and what they think will happen. I'm of the opinion that those people should own nothing sharper than a crayon!
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J.R.@A&M wrote:Well written.
:iagree: She did a great job.
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The reply from the non-gun owning Marianne is odd in some respects. She talks about the qualification being at three feet - the ranges are in yards, and most of the firing is done at longer ranges that three yards.

Also, she emphasizes there is nothing about gun safety in the CHL course, something hard to believe from any certified instructor. One required topic is gun handling, which would always be about safety. Another of the required topics is safe storage of guns and ammunition.

Maybe she took a course of some kind and has sort of anthropomorphically transmogrified the meaning of some kind of certificate into a State license. I'm not accusing her of any failing of veracity, and I'm not saying she doesn't have a CHL. Heck, I barely understand what "anthropomorphically transmogrified" might mean. Sesquipedalianism is not my forte and I'm not saying she's a liar.

I just strongly suspect that even if the course she took really got her a CHL, it wasn't even close to a compliant course. My guess is it would be very, very difficult to find a CHL instructor that would gloss over safety.

Actually, I think I just caught myself in a lie. Truthfully, I think it would be impossible to find a CHL instructor that would ignore gun safety.
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I find it interesting, in a troubling way, that the cognitive dissonance of the vehemently anti-gun folks seems to bolster their desire to infect others with their dis-ease through communication. It seems terribly easy, and catching, to be an alarmist without concern for actual facts.
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Let them cry, let them weep, let them pull their hair. as of 1/1/2016 OC in a public park even when kids are jumping on the kids mania playground is not illegal. I would not do it because I do not want to give Hillary another vote from a stupid voter.
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Between the comments on the article and the same articles posting on Facebook the general public seems to be terribly misinformed into believing that open carry will be legal on campuses. Apparently they also believe every student no matter how old will be legal to carry no matter whether they are licensed or not. Don't think they even bother reading the article, just skim it and throw out the usual garbage about how it will make shootings skyrocket.
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Most people don't bother reading articles. They read the headlines and then move to the comments section. This has grown progressively worse with younger people. Thus you have all the misinformed 'readers'.
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treadlightly wrote:The reply from the non-gun owning Marianne is odd in some respects. She talks about the qualification being at three feet - the ranges are in yards, and most of the firing is done at longer ranges that three yards.

Also, she emphasizes there is nothing about gun safety in the CHL course, something hard to believe from any certified instructor. One required topic is gun handling, which would always be about safety. Another of the required topics is safe storage of guns and ammunition.

Maybe she took a course of some kind and has sort of anthropomorphically transmogrified the meaning of some kind of certificate into a State license. I'm not accusing her of any failing of veracity, and I'm not saying she doesn't have a CHL. Heck, I barely understand what "anthropomorphically transmogrified" might mean. Sesquipedalianism is not my forte and I'm not saying she's a liar.

I just strongly suspect that even if the course she took really got her a CHL, it wasn't even close to a compliant course. My guess is it would be very, very difficult to find a CHL instructor that would gloss over safety.

Actually, I think I just caught myself in a lie. Truthfully, I think it would be impossible to find a CHL instructor that would ignore gun safety.
The way I took it was that she thought the course should teach a person how to handle, clean and maintain a firearm. This is knowledge that a person should have before they take the carry course. The same with storage.
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