AndyC wrote:It's faster than the technique currently used to get a slug into an 870 - partially retract the pump, thumb-press the mag-tube's emerging shell back into the tube, rack the pump fully to eject the chambered case, etc...
The other technique I commonly used, (If I had space in the tube of course), was to throw one in the tube, then cycle to the pump (or semi). That requires you to have less than-full capacity though. With the benelli, you could cycle out only the shell in chamber for your desired load, and keep a full tube the entire time. May it be 00Buck so when you do make entry, you're ready with the right stuff.
Has anybody ever seen another platform besides Benelli with this set-up? I wonder if they own a patent on the design or something.
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The original Browning A-5 semi-auto shotguns have a magazine disconnect on the left side of the receiver:
Flip that lever and the shotgun becomes essentially a single shot, with the bolt locked open after each round. Drop a shell in the ejection port and hit the button to chamber it.
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AndyC wrote:Never seen it on anything else before, but it's an excellent idea. Perhaps they were inspired by Franchi's SPAS-12 - it has a button on the fore-end to switch from semi to pump... perhaps they took this idea in a different direction.
Either way, I think it's awesome.
Tri-Star has a shotgun that has picked up something similar to the SPAS-12, called the Tec-12. (Close in name I noticed too.)
My gun that replaced the benelli is the Tri-Star Viper G2 Turkey gun: http://tristararms.com/viper-turkey.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I did better with it shooting skeet than anything else this year, though my dove count was not that good, but that may have been due to their little bullet proof vests they were wearing. #6 was doing some damage, but this year it was hard to find.
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Flip that lever and the shotgun becomes essentially a single shot, with the bolt locked open after each round. Drop a shell in the ejection port and hit the button to chamber it.
I've seen several browning similar to this, but never with the lever. I guess they were not the originals then. So that makes two guns with that feature. Then there's the two semi/pump guns, the spaz-12 and tec-12
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AndyC wrote:It's faster than the technique currently used to get a slug into an 870 - partially retract the pump, thumb-press the mag-tube's emerging shell back into the tube, rack the pump fully to eject the chambered case, etc...
The other technique I commonly used, (If I had space in the tube of course), was to throw one in the tube, then cycle to the pump (or semi). That requires you to have less than-full capacity though. With the benelli, you could cycle out only the shell in chamber for your desired load, and keep a full tube the entire time. May it be 00Buck so when you do make entry, you're ready with the right stuff.
Has anybody ever seen another platform besides Benelli with this set-up? I wonder if they own a patent on the design or something.
I've not seen it on other platforms but up until this Nova, I shot semi autos. I don't know if the fetaure itself it patented but maybe it's a function of the overall Benelli design and patents. The owner's manual is pretty "matter of fact" about it (i.e. they don't say "...push the PATENTED Magazine Shell Stop Button..." (see excerpt from the Nova User's Manual in red below:)
Hold the firearm securely with buttstock
against hip, depress the action release
lever and slide the forearm rearward
about 2 inches (fig. 15). The magazine
shell stop button on the underside of the
forend can now be activated by pushing
it inward until it stops. Pull the forend
rearward to open the action until the
loaded cartridge is extracted from the
chamber and ejected from the firearm
(fig. 16); a cartridge will not be released
from the magazine.
2)Insert the desired cartridge into the cham-
ber through the ejection port (fig. 17).
Close the bolt
Lo que no puede cambiar, tu que debe aguantar.
Take Care.
RJ
AndyC wrote:It's faster than the technique currently used to get a slug into an 870 - partially retract the pump, thumb-press the mag-tube's emerging shell back into the tube, rack the pump fully to eject the chambered case, etc...
The other technique I commonly used, (If I had space in the tube of course), was to throw one in the tube, then cycle to the pump (or semi). That requires you to have less than-full capacity though. With the benelli, you could cycle out only the shell in chamber for your desired load, and keep a full tube the entire time. May it be 00Buck so when you do make entry, you're ready with the right stuff.
Has anybody ever seen another platform besides Benelli with this set-up? I wonder if they own a patent on the design or something.
I've not seen it on other platforms but up until this Nova, I shot semi autos. I don't know if the fetaure itself it patented but maybe it's a function of the overall Benelli design and patents. The owner's manual is pretty "matter of fact" about it (i.e. they don't say "...push the PATENTED Magazine Shell Stop Button..." (see excerpt from the Nova User's Manual in red below:)
Hold the firearm securely with buttstock
against hip, depress the action release
lever and slide the forearm rearward
about 2 inches (fig. 15). The magazine
shell stop button on the underside of the
forend can now be activated by pushing
it inward until it stops. Pull the forend
rearward to open the action until the
loaded cartridge is extracted from the
chamber and ejected from the firearm
(fig. 16); a cartridge will not be released
from the magazine.
2)Insert the desired cartridge into the cham-
ber through the ejection port (fig. 17).
Close the bolt
You're right, I would expect them to use some sort of fancy terminology, so I guess it's just that nobody else uses it. That's a real shame then, that could be a useful option for 870's.
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Charlies.Contingency wrote:Does your shotgun have the button on the bottom of the pump? If it does, you can isolate your magazine tube by depressing it when you pump, ejecting your spent shell, leaving you with the option to put something different in.
I like this
Yes, it can save a hug amount of time if you need a different load for something. I would like to see something like this or more tactical platforms. 00Buck is not always the best for breaching a heavy duty dead bolt, but one cycle, throw in a slug, and away you go. You shouldn't have to empty your magazine to take out a door, an option like this would give you something very valuable in a tactical situation IMO, and OPTION. You get too few of those when a problem arises.
I hadn't thought about the tactical side of this but both this Nova and my Benelli Super Black Eagle 2 effectively have this function. If you don't press the shell release button on the SBE2, It will not release a shell from the magazine allowing you tochange out a round via the ejection port if you need to. I know the Nova comes in a tactical model (viewed on Benelli's website).
Bot of these weapons (and I assume all Benellis) are equiped to accept a magazine extension that I think gets your capacity up to 9 rounds. I'm not sure how this is affected by reduced barrel lengths but it sure seems like Benelli was doing a lot of thinking and innovating as they developed their shotguns.
Lo que no puede cambiar, tu que debe aguantar.
Take Care.
RJ
Flip that lever and the shotgun becomes essentially a single shot, with the bolt locked open after each round. Drop a shell in the ejection port and hit the button to chamber it.
I've seen several browning similar to this, but never with the lever. I guess they were not the originals then. So that makes two guns with that feature. Then there's the two semi/pump guns, the spaz-12 and tec-12
The lever was there but, not knowing what it was, you probably just didn't pay any attention to it.
That's exactly what I did until a few years ago. I was cleaning up my father's 1959 Sweet-Sixteen for a forum skeet shoot. I didn't know what it was, so I started doing some research.
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. - John Adams