Yeah, but I don't know what to make of it.Dragonfighter wrote:Anyone else find it interesting that the company is named for the three headed dog guarding the entrance to Hades?
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Yeah, but I don't know what to make of it.Dragonfighter wrote:Anyone else find it interesting that the company is named for the three headed dog guarding the entrance to Hades?
On yet another brighter note, Cerberus's Feinberg is evidently a hunter, mainly of partridges and pheasants on land he has in upstate New York, but he's also gone after elk in Colorado.In Greek mythology, Cerberus or Kerberos (Greek ΚÎÏ?βεÏ?ος, Kerberos, "demon of the pit") was the hound of Hades, a monstrous three-headed dog with a snake for a tail (sometimes said to have 50 or 100 heads) called a hellhound... Cerberus guarded the gate to Hades and ensured that spirits of the dead could enter, but none could exit... In Dante's Inferno, he is described as having a human head. This symbolizes the possibility of Cerberus being more human than animal.
That's a good start, but a lot of those guys with $5,000 Italian shotguns and canned hunts are entirely in favor of gun control for the lower classes.Skiprr wrote:On yet another brighter note, Cerberus's Feinberg is evidently a hunter, mainly of partridges and pheasants on land he has in upstate New York, but he's also gone after elk in Colorado.
Yeah, but I was reminded of the cynical-future flavor of my earlier posts, so I was lookin' for something positive to say.seamusTX wrote:That's a good start, but a lot of those guys with $5,000 Italian shotguns and canned hunts are entirely in favor of gun control for the lower classes.
However--and it may be a big however--Cerberus doesn't have a history of targeting publicly-traded companies. All kinds of SEC complications ensue; it ain't neat, tidy, and quick. Taking it private wouldn't be a financial stretch, but it would take time and approvals. Ruger would be in the same boat. Its share price has gone from a 52-week high of $22.58 to an $8.43 close on Friday. No class-action lawsuits, though. But if you want to buy a privately-held company, you can negotiate that with just a few stakeholders over dinner; a public company is a different matter....that Smith & Wesson and certain of its officers and directors violated federal securities laws. Specifically, during the Class Period, defendants failed to disclose and misrepresented the following: (i) that the market for various lines of the Company's gun products was saturated with inventory which was causing customers to reduce orders and postpone purchases; and (ii) that the Company's reported sales figures did not represent true growth for the Company's products but rather were simply inventory stocking transactions and as customer inventory levels increased, the Company's sales would suffer.
Actually, if I had ever heard that word, I forgot it. I had to look it up.skiprr wrote:... apophasis (I just threw that word in for Jim's benefit...
It's rare, but people sometimes start relationships based on something posted on an online forum. I once met with the publisher Tim O'Reilly based on a Usenet article that I wrote. (Nothing significant came of it, but it was exciting at the time).skiprr wrote:But if Mr. Feinberg would like to discuss some very reasonably-priced assistance in this arena, his people may feel free to contact me.
Cerberus Agrees to Acquire DynCorp in $1 Billion Deal
Cerberus Capital Management LP, the private-equity firm whose takeover of Chrysler Corp. ended in bankruptcy, agreed to buy defense contractor DynCorp International Inc. for about $1 billion.
Cerberus, run by Steve Feinberg, will pay $17.55 a share, Falls Church, Virginia-based DynCorp said today in a statement. The price is 49 percent more than DynCorp’s closing share price on the New York Stock Exchange on April 9. The deal, expected to close in the third or fourth quarter, is valued at $1.5 billion including the assumption of debt.
DynCorp, which helps train Iraqi police and supports the U.S.’s operation of military bases, is at least the fifth government-services investment that Cerberus has made since 2000, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Cerberus owns government contractors including IAP Worldwide Services Inc., Tier 1 Group and Radia Holdings Inc.
“Private-equity firms are focusing on defense service providers rather than hardware makers, making a calculation that military demand for services will hold up better than hardware in the years ahead,” Loren Thompson, a defense analyst with the Lexington Institute, a public policy research group in Arlington, Virginia, said in a telephone interview.
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There have been 68 announced acquisitions of aerospace and defense companies in the past 12 months with an average size of about $261 million including net debt, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The average premium of 23 deals for which information was available was 68 percent.
The biggest transaction was the $1.65 billion takeover of Northrop Grumman Corp.’s Tasc Inc. consulting unit by a group consisting of General Atlantic LLC and KKR & Co. The world’s second-largest private equity firm, Carlyle Group, was one of the first private-equity firms to invest in aerospace and defense companies in the late 1980s.
Just by way of interest, I note, as have others in other threads, that Remington is supposed to be coming out with a 1911 pistol this summer, called the "1911 R1."Skiprr wrote:So in a scant year, you look at the firearm manufacturing landscape in the U.S. and you can see "Cerberus" stamped in almost every channel except handguns. They have no handgun manufacturing operations yet.
Yep. And I do need to note, in the name of full disclosure, that in the two and a half years since I wrote that first post, Cerberus seems to have done nothing to hinder or drastically alter the firearm businesses that they've bought. In fact, the new Bushmaster ACR (aka Magpul Masada) probably would never have been produced if Cerberus hadn't bought both Bushmaster and Remington. So good on 'em. And maybe that, when they formed a subsidiary to be their firearm manufacturer entity, they named the new company "Freedom Group" says something, too.The Annoyed Man wrote:In your opening post, you said:Just by way of interest, I note, as have others in other threads, that Remington is supposed to be coming out with a 1911 pistol this summer, called the "1911 R1."Skiprr wrote:So in a scant year, you look at the firearm manufacturing landscape in the U.S. and you can see "Cerberus" stamped in almost every channel except handguns. They have no handgun manufacturing operations yet.