I love looking suspicious

[BobCat]

Hi Anygun, Stevie!

Stevie, earlier in the thread I posted about being harrassed / shaken down by two Chcago cops, in 1977. I was trying to show that you don't smart off to the police, they can do what they want and not get in any trouble over it - depending on when/where/who is involved. There are probably plenty of cases where the officer did everything by the book but made one small mistake, and got in terrible trouble over it - I just don't know those stories myself.

Re-reading the thread, all I really showed was, I haven't been given a hard time for thiry years. I think that proves the opposite of what I set out to say.

Great Lakes Naval Training Center! - that brings back some memories. Just up Sheridan road, and a few blocks West, there was a gun and tobacco store called Mike Shrank's Smoke'n Gun - smoke and gun, get it? I bought my first firearm there in 1970 - a Colt Singel Action Army, in .357 mag, used, for the princely sum of $150. Had to wait I think 3 days to go back and pick it up - Illinois had some pretty unacceptable gun laws even then. I bought pipes (tobacco, not exhaust) there too - quit in '97 and can smell things (food!) again.

Regards,
Andrew

[Bubba]

gigag04, what a hoot ! Reminds me of a similar incident that happened to me about 10 years ago, but I don't have time now to type it out.
:)
LOL

Bubba

[gigag04]

gigag04, what a hoot ! Reminds me of a similar incident that happened to me about 10 years ago, but I don't have time now to type it out.
:)
LOL

Bubba

Find time soon and post it as a seperate topic so we can all nitpick and comment about it!

-nick

[age_ranger]

I thought you had to notify an officer when carrying if you were stopped in Texas? Has that changed?

[gigag04]

I thought you had to notify an officer when carrying if you were stopped in Texas? Has that changed?

Notify when asked for ID. Per texas law.

[KBCraig]

I thought you had to notify an officer when carrying if you were stopped in Texas? Has that changed?

Yes:
1) If you have a CHL, and
2) A law enforcement officer requests your identification.

It doesn't have to be a traffic stop, and if he's stopping you for some non-violation reason and doesn't request ID, don't worry about it. (For instance, I've been stopped to let me know I had a lose tie-down strap flapping, and once for a safety chain dragging and sparking. No ID requested, just let me know so I could fix it.)

Kevin

[Renegade]

I thought you had to notify an officer when carrying if you were stopped in Texas? Has that changed?

Yes:
1) If you have a CHL, and
2) A law enforcement officer requests your identification.Kevin

Not to be a know-it-all nitpicker, but, you must show CHL & DL, not "notify". I point this out because one of the first CHL arrests I am aware of, a CHL notified but failed to give CHL, and got arrested.

§ 411.205. DISPLAYING LICENSE; PENALTY. (a) If a
license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license
holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that
the license holder display identification, the license holder shall
display both the license holder's driver's license or
identification certificate issued by the department and the license
holder's handgun license. A person who fails or refuses to display
the license and identification as required by this subsection is
subject to suspension of the person's license as provided by
Section 411.187.

[rodnocker1]

I have been told by several DPS Officers that the "on or about his person" (meaning in reach) no longer applies if the weapon is concealed in your vehicle due to the new "traveling law". They said if it's not on your person, you don't have to disclose you have a weapon or present your CHL. Supposedly, they ask if you have any illegal weapons in your vehicle and when you say no, you are being honest because it is now legal. Also, there is no stipulation as to mileage, etc. as far as what defines "Travelling". However, kind of like they say in the car commercials "YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY", depending on the Officer(s). Alot of Deputies and Sheriffs are even worse as far as the new law is concerned (I'm not badmouthing ANY law enforcement personnel here) about having a weapon in the car with no CHL. If stopped, I would have no problem presenting both DL & CHL and disclosing I have a weapon, even if it is in the car and not on my person.
I also believe in showing the Officer respect and being polite. I say "Yes Sir" and "No Sir" no matter what. The last time I received a ticket was 8 or 10 years ago for speeding and was given a warning for that but cited for an expired license due to our 911 address change and I never received notification of my renewal (also my fault for not getting the address changed). After receiving the citation, I told the Officer "Thank You" just like I have the few other times. There was no reason to get mad at him. He was just doing the job we pay him to do. I (that's right, I said "I" )was the one breaking the law.
I think Gig deserves a big "ATTA BOY" for remaining calm and polite when he had done nothing wrong and wasn't breaking any laws. (Sorry, ought to be Maroon!)

[gigag04]

Nick is a good guy here...He contributes a lot to discussions and his input and stories are most welcome in my opinion...He's a lot like me when I was that age...And that was not too long ago...

He knows I'll put him in his place if he gets outta line...

I'm your huckleberry

(more Tombstone)

-nick

"Your a daisy if you do..."

"Say when..."

"The strain was more than he could bear..."

One more (and to bring this back to life):

"well honey...it must be a peach of hand."

[jnkirk1974]

I was trying to find some friends at a house behind Northgate (the bar area of College Station) at like 230 am. I was lost and had turned around a few times.

I passed the same cruiser twice during my quest, and after the second time, I turned around in a church parking lot, and the cruiser came charging in, blocking the exit with the big 'ol bright take-down lights on.

My windows were down since its nice in the evening, and the LEO comes up and shines his maglight right in my face. I had not had any drinks, nor was I speeding, I'm sure they were looking for drunks, and they were generally polite, but I cared little for the aggressive way in which they took me down.

His female partner circled my superduty shining her light in my bed, under my toolbox, helping herself to look around for something with which to bust me.

He never asked me for ID so I didn't give him my CHL, nor did I mention that I had a loaded XD9 SC inches below the window through which he was blinding me.

All in all - I wasn't scared, per another post I put up about not reacting to LEO's as elites, it was actually a good time, as I knew they couldn't do anything to me - not drinking, not speeding, seat belt on, tags current, CHL with me.

CSPD always seems like they are gung-ho about stuff like this.

-nick

First of all, I'm glad that you have your concealed handgun license and are excited about the ability to protect yourself! That's great.

Now, a word to the wise............

Don't let your handgun license go to your head and become a power trip. When law enforcement pulls me over, I ALWAYS give them my CHL. No matter what. Even if I don't have my gun.

The officer is going to find out if your have your CHL or not, so you might as well beat him to the punch.

Everytime I have been pulled over, I've given them my license and CHL. In every case, the officer treated me even better than he would if I didn't have a CHL (I really believe they gave me MORE respect because of it).

When you make comments like "he had no idea about the XD9 directly below him" (paraphrasing here), it just doesn't sound good.

[anygunanywhere]

Everytime I have been pulled over, I've given them my license and CHL.

How many times have you been pulled over since you have had your CHL? Just curious.

Anygun

[jnkirk1974]

Everytime I have been pulled over, I've given them my license and CHL.

How many times have you been pulled over since you have had your CHL? Just curious.

Anygun

Probably about 5 times. I got pulled over three times (given warning each time) for no license plate on the front and 2 times for speeding. All of this has happened since 2001.

One of those times, the officer actually made the comment that my CHL wasn't doing me any good with my gun at home (I left my gun at home that day). He told me that if I'm going to have a CHL, I might make a habit of having it with me.

Thought that was interesting. Sounded pretty CHL friendly to me. BTW, it was a Dallas motorcycle officer.

****Let Me Clarify****
I did not see the part when he said that he wasn't ID'ed. In that case, I wouldn't have bothered with giving my CHL either.

[Glockamolie]

Hi Anygun, Stevie!

Stevie, earlier in the thread I posted about being harrassed / shaken down by two Chcago cops, in 1977. I was trying to show that you don't smart off to the police, they can do what they want and not get in any trouble over it - depending on when/where/who is involved....
Regards,
Andrew

To an extent, you're still right. But cops can't and don't operate like they did in 1977. They should, by now, know to act like a camera is on them at all times, because they're very likely right. They can't expect you to paperclip a $20 bill to your license when you get stopped, so they can make a little "street money" and let you go about your way.

They few that still try that stuff wind up talking to Internal Affairs a lot, or wind up in jail.

[BobCat]

Brandon,

You are right, these days it is probably harder for "not-good" officers to get away with much. I still think it is unwise to have a cocky attitude when pulled over / being interviewed by the police - if [abbreviated profanity deleted] no other reason than to make the encounter go smoothly.

In the post you quoted I also said:

"Re-reading the thread, all I really showed was, I haven't been given a hard time for thiry years. I think that proves the opposite of what I set out to say."

Anyway, I'm not cop-bashing, just saying that a respectful (not crawling) attitude can keep the interaction on-track. A snotty attitude can have negative repercussions.

And I have to add... several years ago, when the Illinois State Police took over enforement on I-94 (interstate highway through downtown Chicago), the Sun Times (big local paper at the time) ran an article that basically said, if you get pulled over by a State Trooper, do NOT offer him money like you would a Chicago cop - you will get in big trouble, the game has changed. Some places are more corrupt than others.

Regards,
Andrew

[gigag04]

Don't let your handgun license go to your head and become a power trip.

What did I say that led you to assume that this was the case?

-nick