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Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:36 am
by USA1
dont forget- Terrorists are no longer Terrorists :shock:

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:44 am
by caldvn
Off-Topic
Topics that do not fit anywhere else. Absolutely NO discussions of religion, race, immigration, or non-gun political issues!
Aww crap, I hit race...

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:49 am
by USA1
caldvn wrote:
Off-Topic
Topics that do not fit anywhere else. Absolutely NO discussions of religion, race, immigration, or non-gun political issues!
Aww crap, I hit race...
shhhh..i dont think they heard :cool:

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:32 am
by Charles L. Cotton
caldvn wrote:
Off-Topic
Topics that do not fit anywhere else. Absolutely NO discussions of religion, race, immigration, or non-gun political issues!
Aww crap, I hit race...
Your first post was fine because it was discussing the lack of critical information concerning a suspect the police are warning about and asking the public's assistance in locating. The forum rule deals with blatant racist comments and discussions, as well as posts/threads whose sole purpose is to discuss race as a stand-alone issue.

Chas.

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:59 am
by seamusTX
OK, here's the deal: The Galveston County Daily News is not PC. They print racial and other identifying information when it is known and appropriate, as well as mug shots of arrested persons and occasionally Identikit images.

This type of story is usually a transcription of a police report. Sometimes these reports are explained in real time by a police spokesman. Often they are e-mailed to the reporter. The reporter has no first-hand information and often cannot interview eyewitnesses (minor children, for example).

Racial identification is not, pardon the pun, black and white. Skin tone appears in every shade from pink to purple. Many people in this country are described as mixed-race, whether that is African-European or Peruvian-Japanese.

Any witness might find it difficult to identify a race if he sees the offender for a short time (like in a purse-snatching) or in poor light.

Mexican is not a race, it's a nationality; and you can't tell by looking. Asian is meaningless. Filipinos look very little like Pakistanis, but both are from Asia.

What race is this woman?
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- Jim

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:17 pm
by Purplehood
seamusTX wrote:OK, here's the deal: The Galveston County Daily News is not PC. They print racial and other identifying information when it is known and appropriate, as well as mug shots of arrested persons and occasionally Identikit images.

This type of story is usually a transcription of a police report. Sometimes these reports are explained in real time by a police spokesman. Often they are e-mailed to the reporter. The reporter has no first-hand information and often cannot interview eyewitnesses (minor children, for example).

Racial identification is not, pardon the pun, black and white. Skin tone appears in every shade from pink to purple. Many people in this country are described as mixed-race, whether that is African-European or Peruvian-Japanese.

Any witness might find it difficult to identify a race if he sees the offender for a short time (like in a purse-snatching) or in poor light.

Mexican is not a race, it's a nationality; and you can't tell by looking. Asian is meaningless. Filipinos look very little like Pakistanis, but both are from Asia.

What race is this woman?
foo.jpg
- Jim
Hot?

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:22 pm
by seamusTX
I prefer foxy, but I'm old-fashioned. I sure wouldn't mind being stuck in an elevator with her. ;-)

- Jim

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:01 pm
by Fangs
Haha, Purplehood, you stole the word from my mind. :thumbs2:

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:53 pm
by caldvn
seamusTX wrote:OK, here's the deal: The Galveston County Daily News is not PC. They print racial and other identifying information when it is known and appropriate, as well as mug shots of arrested persons and occasionally Identikit images.

This type of story is usually a transcription of a police report. Sometimes these reports are explained in real time by a police spokesman. Often they are e-mailed to the reporter. The reporter has no first-hand information and often cannot interview eyewitnesses (minor children, for example).

Racial identification is not, pardon the pun, black and white. Skin tone appears in every shade from pink to purple. Many people in this country are described as mixed-race, whether that is African-European or Peruvian-Japanese.

Any witness might find it difficult to identify a race if he sees the offender for a short time (like in a purse-snatching) or in poor light.

Mexican is not a race, it's a nationality; and you can't tell by looking. Asian is meaningless. Filipinos look very little like Pakistanis, but both are from Asia.

What race is this woman?
foo.jpg
- Jim
I understand the point, but when one person is "obviously" one race/nationality... what then? Let's say for the woman, she appears caucasion (kind of hot, but hey I'm not here to judge on people's preferences.) We're not defining her as caucasian, but appears caucasian. Does that offend the criminial for what they appear to be, so we have to avoid saying it all together? Are we to the point where we have to do DNA testing to justify calling someone for what they appear to be? Isn't that why some forms you fill out they ask "asian/pacific islander" "caucasian" "african american" etc...? Can we at least say something like that without offending someone?

I don't keep tabs with Galveston Daily News, I'll take your word on that they aren't PC. (I think you read more news then everyone here combined... Oddly enough I get more news from your posts then elsewhere. :P) I was generalizing media for being so. In some news, and you may have seen some instances, where it literally is black and white but isn't reported as such. It's the little things that build up over time, we learn to accept it and next thing you know, we're a socialist country... oh wait too late...

It's not an issue if the criminal is caught, it isn't issue of race or nationality or whatever you want to call it. Warning someone that there is a suspicious character around but without some "obvious" characteristics is what makes me scratch my head. What do cops tell each other to be on the look out for when a crime is being commited or just committed? Watch out for male in a red nissan... just waste resources to pull anyone male in red nissan. Let's avoid the make of and model of the vehicle since it might offend the manufacturer... (yeah I know bad example...just being an rear.)

I might have gone off topic...ah well.

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:42 pm
by seamusTX
caldvn wrote:I understand the point, but when one person is "obviously" one race/nationality... what then?
In that case, the Daily News prints the information. Other articles that I quoted in this thread explicitly stated that the suspects were white or Hispanic. I have read many other articles where suspects at large were described as black.

I don't know why the guy in the red Nissan was not identified by race. The most likely explanation is that the reporter didn't know because the police didn't tell him, and the police didn't know.

This could easily happen. The victim was an 11-year-old girl. She was confronted by Mr. Stranger Danger, who was in a car, maybe for a few seconds.

I can imagine the following interview with a police officer (which is another intimidating situation):
Officer: What race was the man?
Victim: I dunno.
Was he black?
No.
Was he white?
Maybe.
What color was his skin?
Kinda brown.
Was he Mexican?
I don't know.
At this point, he could be a tanned Caucasian, a Mexican, an Indian, a Pakistani, an Arab, or any number of mixed-race possibilities.

I also have to point out that the "suspect" in this case did not actually commit a crime. I don't think it's a crime to offer someone a ride. Police officers would have a hard time coming up with probable cause to question or detain him, let alone put him in a lineup.
I don't keep tabs with Galveston Daily News, I'll take your word on that they aren't PC. (I think you read more news then everyone here combined... Oddly enough I get more news from your posts then elsewhere. :P)
Thanks. All you have to do is read the newspaper wherever you live, and check http://news.google.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. That's all I do.

I will let y'all guess the race or ethnicity of the foxy lady for a couple of days. While you're at it, guess her age. I think you will be surprised.

- Jim

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:08 pm
by Keith B
seamusTX wrote: At this point, he could be a tanned Caucasian, a Mexican, an Indian, a Pakistani, an Arab, or any number of mixed-race possibilities.
We used to refer to these as to a male with a dark complexion. This allowed for all of the various possibilities.


I will let y'all guess the race or ethnicity of the foxy lady for a couple of days. While you're at it, guess her age. I think you will be surprised.

- Jim
My guess: Chinese (at least partially)

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:39 pm
by caldvn
seamusTX wrote: What race is this woman?
foo.jpg
- Jim
It's a trick question, it's a guy!

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:41 pm
by USA1
caldvn wrote:
seamusTX wrote: What race is this woman?
foo.jpg
- Jim
It's a trick question, it's a guy!
uh oh...please excuse me while i go wash my eyes out :oops:

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:59 pm
by seamusTX
caldvn wrote:It's a trick question, it's a guy!
That would come as a big surprise to her son. ;-)

What about this one?
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Too easy?

- Jim

Re: Friendswood: Child molester on the prowl

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:03 pm
by USA1
seamusTX wrote:
caldvn wrote:It's a trick question, it's a guy!
That would come as a big surprise to her son. ;-)

What about this one?
Image2.jpg
Too easy?

- Jim
seamus, its not wise to display pictures of yourself on the internet..there are whackos out there who might recognize you.