US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

[PBratton]

I thought they had some carbines too?

Call up the CMP and order one of theirs.

Not that simple (except for parts, after you have been a customer). The CMP has four requirements for purchase: age over 18, US citizenship, firearms related activity, and membership in a CMP affiliated organization. You must submit the application paperwork and proof of the above with your money. They do the background check, and the rifle is sent directly to you. No FFL required.

As far as CMP requirements... CHL counts for the firearms qualification. You can join GCA (garand collectors association) by mail, online or standing in line to purchase at CMP(in person of course). You are only 25 bucks and a week wait away from putting your order in. The $25 being negated by the FFL fee normally charged.

edit: the $25 for CMP is for the GCA membership, which expires in September if I remember correctly.

I'm patiently waiting on my GSSF membership packet so I can qualify for CMP purchase.
I have always wanted a garand and their prices are great.

My H&R CMP Garand is one of my favorite rifles to shoot, a close second is the M1A. (I'm detecting a theme here...)

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Hey guys, don't forget TSRA is an affiliate that qualifies.

[bayouhazard]

So what about those of us who are neither Korean War veterans nor related to Korean War veterans?

IDK. What about you?

[G26ster]

So what about those of us who are neither Korean War veterans nor related to Korean War veterans?

IDK. What about you?

Why in heaven's name would anyone want to wait, especially on an unconfirmed story that has been going on for years, for the possibility of Korean re-imported former USGI GM1 Garands, with import markings, when you can order a 100% genuine USGI Garand, with no import markings, from the CMP - today for as little as $525? The CMP guarantees, "Each M1 Garand rifle sold by CMP is an authentic U.S. Government rifle that has been inspected, headspaced, repaired if necessary and test fired for function." Someone please explain to me the salivation over the Korean Garands, or the concern over who can buy them. I'm baffled

[Pawpaw]

So what about those of us who are neither Korean War veterans nor related to Korean War veterans?

IDK. What about you?

Why in heaven's name would anyone want to wait, especially on an unconfirmed story that has been going on for years, for the possibility of Korean re-imported former USGI GM1 Garands, with import markings, when you can order a 100% genuine USGI Garand, with no import markings, from the CMP - today for as little as $525? The CMP guarantees, "Each M1 Garand rifle sold by CMP is an authentic U.S. Government rifle that has been inspected, headspaced, repaired if necessary and test fired for function." Someone please explain to me the salivation over the Korean Garands, or the concern over who can buy them. I'm baffled

They don't need a reason. They are free to wait and free to care about those Korean Garands as much as they want to.

The best part is that they don't owe you, me, or anyone else any explanation.

Why does it bother you that they care? (Hint: Use the same answer as above.)

[G26ster]

They don't need a reason. They are free to wait and free to care about those Korean Garands as much as they want to.

The best part is that they don't owe you, me, or anyone else any explanation.

Why does it bother you that they care? (Hint: Use the same answer as above.)

Fair enough.

[jimlongley]

A country cannot sell rifles we loaned them.

Maybe someone could tell England that, they turned around and threw away the guns we loaned them at the beginning of WWII.

[G26ster]

A country cannot sell rifles we loaned them.

Maybe someone could tell England that, they turned around and threw away the guns we loaned them at the beginning of WWII.

Don't know for sure. From Wikipedia (concerning British Lend lease):

There was no charge for the Lend Lease aid delivered during the war, but the Americans did expect the return of some durable goods such as ships. Congress had not authorized the gift of supplies after the war, so the administration charged for them, usually at a 90% discount. Large quantities of undelivered goods were in Britain or in transit when Lend-Lease terminated on 2 September 1945. Britain wished to retain some of this equipment in the immediate post war period. In 1946, the post-war Anglo-American loan further indebted Britain to the U.S. Lend-lease items retained were sold to Britain at 10% of nominal value, giving an initial loan value of £1.075 billion for the Lend Lease portion of the post-war loans. Payment was to be stretched out over 50 annual payments, starting in 1951 and with five years of deferred payments, at 2% interest.[27] The final payment of $83.3 million (£42.5 million), due on 31 December 2006 (repayment having been deferred in the allowed five years), was made on 29 December 2006 (the last working day of the year). After this final payment Britain's Economic Secretary to the Treasury, Ed Balls, formally thanked the U.S. for its wartime support.

[jimlongley]

A country cannot sell rifles we loaned them.

Maybe someone could tell England that, they turned around and threw away the guns we loaned them at the beginning of WWII.

Don't know for sure. From Wikipedia (concerning British Lend lease):

There was no charge for the Lend Lease aid delivered during the war, but the Americans did expect the return of some durable goods such as ships. Congress had not authorized the gift of supplies after the war, so the administration charged for them, usually at a 90% discount. Large quantities of undelivered goods were in Britain or in transit when Lend-Lease terminated on 2 September 1945. Britain wished to retain some of this equipment in the immediate post war period. In 1946, the post-war Anglo-American loan further indebted Britain to the U.S. Lend-lease items retained were sold to Britain at 10% of nominal value, giving an initial loan value of £1.075 billion for the Lend Lease portion of the post-war loans. Payment was to be stretched out over 50 annual payments, starting in 1951 and with five years of deferred payments, at 2% interest.[27] The final payment of $83.3 million (£42.5 million), due on 31 December 2006 (repayment having been deferred in the allowed five years), was made on 29 December 2006 (the last working day of the year). After this final payment Britain's Economic Secretary to the Treasury, Ed Balls, formally thanked the U.S. for its wartime support.

Prior to Lend/Lease, the British government, having found that the citizenry, for some reason, lacked personal defense firearms with which to defend hearth and home, advertised in US papers for and magazines (including the American Rifleman) for "Americans to "Send A Gun to Defend a British Home. British civilians, faced with threat of invasion. desperately need arms for the defense of their homes." The ads pleaded for "Pistols, Rifles, Revolvers, Shotguns and Binoculars from American civilians who wish to answer the call and aid in defense of British homes.""

More than 7000 personal firearms were collected and sent to England, with the understanding that they were being lent and would be returned when the crisis was over. My grandfather sent his personal WWI Enfield 1917, and my father a couple of revolvers. Included were 110 Thompson SMGs. All were sent labeled with the lender's name and other information.

Not one was ever returned.

When my uncle returned to England after VE day, he was met by British military who were inspecting returning US troops for "souvenier" firearms and any found were confiscated. My uncle was a Lt Colonel at the time.